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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Teasing and harrassment from people 15 years older than them???? You would make a piss poor parent.
    Why? Just cause they're older? Lots of people tease and harass others of varying ages. Grow a spine, learn to deal with it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The law has been the law for as long as I remember. Parks have always had closing hours. These people are violating a reasonable law. Time to start making them pay the fines or put their asses in jail. They are hurting some of the local businesses.
    Not all parks have closing hours. The one in question may have "always" had closing hours, but most have started having closing hours as a response to crime or homelessness.
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why? Just cause they're older? Lots of people tease and harass others of varying ages. Grow a spine, learn to deal with it.
    My spine is just fine and I could easily handle those doped up dropouts. A six year old is a different story and should not be harassed or teased by people that much older than them.

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    My spine is just fine and I could easily handle those doped up dropouts. A six year old is a different story and should not be harassed or teased by people that much older than them.
    No, not at all. By 6 they can figure out how to ignore people. Your solution is probably assault, which would be rather childish and is not learning to deal with the situation, but rather how to give into emotion and assault others for merely running their mouths. Grow up, learn to deal with it. Freedom has consequences and if you wish to remain free, you must accept the consequences.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, not at all. By 6 they can figure out how to ignore people. Your solution is probably assault, which would be rather childish and is not learning to deal with the situation, but rather how to give into emotion and assault others for merely running their mouths. Grow up, learn to deal with it. Freedom has consequences and if you wish to remain free, you must accept the consequences.
    Great........ I'll send some over to crap on your doorstep and car hood. I'm sure you can enjoy your "freedom" with them.

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Great........ I'll send some over to crap on your doorstep and car hood. I'm sure you can enjoy your "freedom" with them.
    Property damage isn't the same as taunting. Please don't make ridiculous comparisons.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There certainly is, if you mean violence against the government as "immoral". When a government no longer serves the rights and liberties of the People, if it in fact acts against them for too long, it is the RIGHT and DUTY of the People to do away with that government and construct for themselves a government which will better preserve their freedom. We most certainly DO have that right. Sorry fascist. You may think that once you get into power you can then dominate and oppress everyone as you like; but even kings lost their heads from time to time.
    Well, in my mind the alternative is losing my head (one way or another) if this country continues on its current course, so I'm not sure there's all that much difference.

    I'm talking about ANY act of immorality.... drug use, drinking to excess, adultery, etc.... There is NO Right to commit any of those acts so far as I am concerned.

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'm talking about ANY act of immorality.... drug use, drinking to excess, adultery, etc.... There is NO Right to commit any of those acts so far as I am concerned.
    Then don't do those things. But you are not the moral authority over everyone else.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, or changing the hours to prevent protesting. There's no restriction on that restriction and they can do as they like.
    Any evidence they did this or are you just trying to stretch the truth to support your position?
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I thought I was pretty clear............ a person does not have the right to inflict harm on another.

    Plain enough for you ??
    NO it is not.

    Does your statement about rights being limited apply to all the rights we enjoy as Americans or are there some rights we enjoy that you feel are without limits?
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