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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And what rights did they infringe upon?
    I dunno.... ask these people if they feel their rights have been infringed:

    Livid lower Manhattan residents went off on Zuccotti Park protesters at a heated Community Board 1 meeting last night and blasted politicians for not controlling the chaos.

    “They’re defecating on our doorsteps,” fumed board member Catherine Hughes, a stay-at-home mom who lives one block from the protest. “The cowbells start at 4 a.m. and the drumming goes past 10 p.m. A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids.”

    Fed-up homeowners said they’ve been insulted and harassed as they trek to their jobs each morning. “The protesters taunt people who are on their way to work,” said James Fernandez, 51.

    The meeting, packed with more than 200 people, spilled out onto the street, where Zuccotti sympathizers began sparring with their critics
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Thankfully some of us realize that there is no Right to Act in an Immoral Manner, and there never has been. There aren't as many of us yet as there should be, or as there once were, but we're gaining ground again compared to the back half of last century. Best of luck with that.
    There certainly is, if you mean violence against the government as "immoral". When a government no longer serves the rights and liberties of the People, if it in fact acts against them for too long, it is the RIGHT and DUTY of the People to do away with that government and construct for themselves a government which will better preserve their freedom. We most certainly DO have that right. Sorry fascist. You may think that once you get into power you can then dominate and oppress everyone as you like; but even kings lost their heads from time to time.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I dunno.... ask these people if they feel their rights have been infringed:

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    Read more: Zuccotti neighbors: Stop dumping on us - NYPOST.com
    Defecating on someone's property can certainly be a form of vandalism. Taunting...no, nothing there. "concerned about the safety of our kids" is rather vague. From what's listed there, I don't see there being an overall problem with the protesters infringing upon the rights of others.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Defecating on someone's property can certainly be a form of vandalism. Taunting...no, nothing there. "concerned about the safety of our kids" is rather vague. From what's listed there, I don't see there being an overall problem with the protesters infringing upon the rights of others.
    I bet you would if it was a Tea Party group doing these things............. especially if it was in your neighborhood.

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Sounds like an excellent group.....very effective.

    They're environmentalists? I never heard of them; "Rainbow" to me conjures up Gay Pride or Jessie Jackson's (ugh) presidential campaign.

    Is there any reason to anticipate they'll be in Cincinnati?
    Here's a link to what looks like a pretty good wiki:

    Rainbow Gathering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Looks pretty comprehensive and even has info on the consensus process being used.

    Check it out. I think it may actually help you get a handle on what's going on in the OWS movement overall, as far as how they're going about it, nuts and bolts.

    And while I'm not sure their is an effective Rainbow presence in Cincinnati, the odds are good. They are KEENLY aware of optics. Of the perceptual things that are used against them.

    I've picked up many a cigarette butt and carried out much trash from small Rainbow events over the years. Its very much part of their culture. And leaving things better than they found them is tradition.

    As an example, Gatherings are held on sites with water. Springs are temporarily tapped for cooking etc. But most streams and rivers are protected habitats in these areas. And the hippies stay out of the water. In the hot summer sun, barring a very few, the hippies sweat rather than tear up the streambeds because the cleanup crews can't fix them the way they can trails. Can't restore them to the point the fish can spawn in them.

    So hopefully they do have a substantial presence in Cincinnati. Id be surprised if there was none.
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I bet you would if it was a Tea Party group doing these things............. especially if it was in your neighborhood.
    What a ****ing retarded statement this is. Dumb partisan crap, you obviously have not read my posts. I support the Tea Party's right to protest as much as OWS. If the Tea Party wanted to stay in a park overnight to continue their protest, I would say they should certainly be afforded their right to assemble and protest over silly "camping" laws.

    Unlike you blind partisans, I am extremely consistent within my political ideology.
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What a ****ing retarded statement this is. Dumb partisan crap, you obviously have not read my posts. I support the Tea Party's right to protest as much as OWS. If the Tea Party wanted to stay in a park overnight to continue their protest, I would say they should certainly be afforded their right to assemble and protest over silly "camping" laws.

    Unlike you blind partisans, I am extremely consistent within my political ideology.
    Excellent..... I'm sure you are fine with them harassing your kids as they walk to school also.

    Just don't let your kids go near the park. The OWS crowd is full of perverts.

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Regularly closing the park at dark is "Arbitrary" to you?

    "Dark" is a subjective term. The sun goes down at a different time every day. When the moon is full, you can't actually say its "dark". Usually its defined legally as 30 minutes after sunset.

    But it is arbitrary. Why not 5 pm? Or midnight? Are there lights? Why can't I play basketball at 3am? What if I work graveyard and have a "day" off?
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Excellent..... I'm sure you are fine with them harassing your kids as they walk to school also.

    Just don't let your kids go near the park. The OWS crowd is full of perverts.
    They have to learn to deal with teasing and harassment anyway. Plus they need to learn about the consequences of freedom and why despite the fact that we may not like what we see, it is imperative to uphold it.

    As I said, I'm just a man who loves his freedom.
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They have to learn to deal with teasing and harassment anyway. Plus they need to learn about the consequences of freedom and why despite the fact that we may not like what we see, it is imperative to uphold it.

    As I said, I'm just a man who loves his freedom.
    Teasing and harrassment from people 15 years older than them???? You would make a piss poor parent.

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