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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    I don't imagine that other students in other countries would be required to learn out pledge, anthem (etc) when just learning our language. In part because our language just isn't spoken in the US - but around the world as well.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I'm not sure I totally agree. The student obviously took exception, and she seems pretty astute.
    Yeah, she's sharp. Don't make her right. There is an unfortunate undercurrent within our society that says that learning about foreign cultures is somehow disloyal, and that maintaining a state of cultural ignorance-- as a means of remaining culturally pure-- is praiseworthy. As a nation, we need to step away from this mindset. We need to learn more about our neighbors, about our friends and our enemies, not less.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Is it the "recitation", the "foreign pledge" or the inappropriate use of your "money" that bothers you most?
    It is the foreign pledge, definitely. The reason that money enters into it is that the teacher is taking our money, and thus has some obligation to further our interests in the classroom, rather than directly opposing them. It is a form of treachery, however minor it is; she may owe her loyalty to Mexico, rather than to us, but she does owe us enough not to promote Mexico's interests within her role as schoolteacher.

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    A report on the Mexican revolution obviously is far more work than merely reciting the Mexican pledge of allegiance. Better and more equal would have been to simply recite something other than the pledge but that is also topically appropriate.
    Replacement assignments are always more work than the main assignment. It's an important lesson that students need to learn: standing for your principles always has a price.

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    I would enjoy getting more facts in the matter before passing too much judgment, though.
    I would always prefer to have more facts. My judgments are always based on the facts I have, and I admit that they are merely the best I can do within those limits.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I agree with most of that. But I still don't understand how reciting the words to some foreign pledge that means nothing to anyone other than the citizens of the nation in question is in any way inappropriate. Words only have value if you actually mean them.
    Then it obviously had meaning to that student which is why she refused to recite the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I learned Latin. I was never invited to any pagan sex orgies, though.

    Why the hell don't Latin Americans speak latin anyway?!?
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I dig where you are coming from, but Hispanic culture has definitely changed very much since the times of 20th century European imperialism/colonialism to the point where Latin America has its own unique culture.
    That is why it is accurately known as Latino Culture...
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    People 'round these here parts use-ta call me Mellie.
    Beggin' your pardon Ma'am...

    Howdie there Ms. Mellie.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by thorgasm View Post
    why the hell don't latin americans speak latin anyway?!?
    lolololol.

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