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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The first-year teacher, according to the student, is from Mexico and loves it. The student also objected to the assignment's being on the U.S.'s Constitution Day.
    Huh?

    I've never even heard of "Constitution Day".

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    You have to play the video to get this fact, but this is a 15 year old in a public HS in Texas, and the assignment was given in her Spanish class.

    I think the student was correct. She was there to learn to speak SPANISH, a language spoken in over a dozen nations around the globe, including SPAIN. She will not be aided by learning "Hispanic culture", Mexican Independence Day facts, or the pledge of allegiance to another nation.

    NOT EVERY SPANISH SPEAKER IS MEXICAN.

    Lots of you have probably taken a second language class....have any of you ever been asked to learn and recite another nation's pledge of allegiance?
    If that is in fact the gist of the story... the student is a twit. Do your homework or fail.

    The assignment was to memorize SOMETHING. Memorize it.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    If that is in fact the gist of the story... the student is a twit. Do your homework or fail.

    The assignment was to memorize SOMETHING. Memorize it.
    I disagree. I can think of many items I would have been upset, had my kid been asked to memorize them. But more importantly to me, I also think this teacher had a purpose that was not related to teaching Spanish...to encourage the students to regard Mexico in a "special" way as opposed to any other foreign nation.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I disagree. I can think of many items I would have been upset, had my kid been asked to memorize them. But more importantly to me, I also think this teacher had a purpose that was not related to teaching Spanish...to encourage the students to regard Mexico in a "special" way as opposed to any other foreign nation.
    Maybe she was. But we don't know much about Reyna Santos except that she is from Mexico herself and that, according to the student, she "loves Mexico." How old is she? If she's very young, maybe she was just fired up about the "Grito" (celebrated on 9-15):

    Mexican Independence Day - 16 de Septiembre - Independence Day in Mexico

    McAllen is a border town that has always been "porous." It's different down there from, say, an Ohio town. Remember David Hartley, the American jet skiier living in McAllen who was murdered last year on the shared lake?

    What I mean is that there are tremendous tensions on the border. My bet is that the teacher is young and enthusiastic--this is her first year--and that with all the negative attention, she really regrets this assignment. Here's what the school district says:

    Nothing wrong with Spanish class that riled parent | mcallen, parent, riled - McAllen ISD - TheMonitor.com

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    That would be something students were forced to do.
    So homework is forced on students? Tests, quizzes, mid-terms, and finals are forced on to them?
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Did you read the linked article? The students were also asked to learn "hispanic culture" (what a stupid term) and study Mexican Independence Day.
    How is "hispanic culture" a stupid term? There is a hispanic culture, just like there is a european, asian, and african culture.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    How is "hispanic culture" a stupid term? There is a hispanic culture, just like there is a european, asian, and african culture.
    In the literal definition of the word, Hispanic culture is a sub-set of European culture, as it derives from the word 'hispania', denoting the Iberian Peninsular.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Here's the point ludahai, it doesn't matter how much you scream this is indoctrination. It wasn't something kids were being forced to on a mass scale. It wasn't something they needed to do in order to remain in the school. It was an assignment. She didn't do it because she didn't like it? Good for her. Now she has an F. She's not being kicked out of class. She's not being told she can't come to school. She's not being ostracized by her community. She got an F. That's it.

    Indoctrination is what christians do to their children. You know, force them to go to church. Force them to pray to some imaginary fairy. Force them to believe in something which makes no sense to rational adults. That my old friend, is indoctrination. Refusing to do school work? Lol, that's just life.
    You are way out of line here buddy. Have you ever even raised a child? I'd love to hear what you really know about it.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    In the literal definition of the word, Hispanic culture is a sub-set of European culture, as it derives from the word 'hispania', denoting the Iberian Peninsular.
    I dig where you are coming from, but Hispanic culture has definitely changed very much since the times of 20th century European imperialism/colonialism to the point where Latin America has its own unique culture.
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