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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Why do people always get outraged by stupid issues like these? Seriously, who cares? It's up to the teacher to set the assignments as they see fit. The Mexican Pledge is in Spanish, so it is relevant. It's not as if the assignment was so outlandish that it had absolutely nothing to do with Spanish class. Also, they are just words. Simply reciting words does not indicate ones allegiance to one country or another. Hell, when I was in grade school, we had to recite the US pledge and had no clue what we were even reciting. It was just that thing that you recite before the day starts. This particular student refused to do the assignment and as such she should receive a failing grade for that particular assignment. End of story. I don't know why people have to politicize every single ****ing thing under the sun and turn it into a question of patriotism. Have things gotten so bad in this country that people are going to get outraged by stupid insignificant crap like this? If you don't agree with the curriculum, take your kid out of the class or get a degree and teach your own class the way you want to.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    How about if you were asked to recite a pledge of allegiance to him?
    For me, it would depend on the relevance and context of why I was being asked to recite it.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    My high school Spanish classes were incredibly elementary. I learned more in the college ones, but it wasn't only 2 semesters. I can't recall ever having to write much of anything in Spanish except translating words or phrases.
    I can sing a few hymns in Latin....that's about all. I retained almost nothing and of course, we never even tried to master pronunciation. Dead language, blah, blah, blah. But it's been useful, even so. Mastering a second language to any degree forces the student to grasp the concept of tenses, etc.

    Back in the day, at the peak of my powers, I could read fairly easy material in Latin...I never did build up a huge vocabulary.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why did this even make the news? What's the big deal? So she didn't want to say Mexico's pledge. So she takes, maybe, a ding in her grade for it. Big deal.
    I think it's more than just getting a ding in her grade. The teacher was asking her students to pledge allegiance to a different country. Some people take their pledges very seriously.


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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why did this even make the news? What's the big deal? So she didn't want to say Mexico's pledge. So she takes, maybe, a ding in her grade for it. Big deal.
    The original issue was like the bump in the shopping cart wheel. Not a big deal until you start pushing it all around the store.

    What we illuminated here, IMMHO, was the continued stupidity and hypocrisy of the liberal left on all issues immigration and Mexican illegals. Like a pile of fresh dung. The flies come swarming pretty quick.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    For me, it would depend on the relevance and context of why I was being asked to recite it.
    The only thing I can think of that might give me pause here is if the class is role-playing. If a student is playing the part of a Nazi in an educational reenactment or theatrical play, then that makes sense. Other than that, what's the point other than to stir up controversy?


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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I think it's more than just getting a ding in her grade. The teacher was asking her students to pledge allegiance to a different country. Some people take their pledges very seriously.
    Those people should lighten up. A pledge doesn't contain magic words that suddenly makes one have allegiance to a different country when recited.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I think it's more than just getting a ding in her grade. The teacher was asking her students to pledge allegiance to a different country. Some people take their pledges very seriously.
    How on earth do you gather that from the story? It was part of an assignment. They were to read the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance. That does not translate to pledging allegiance to another country. How is that different from reading it? Listening to it? Or can't they ask students to do that either? Good grief.
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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Why do people always get outraged by stupid issues like these? Seriously, who cares? It's up to the teacher to set the assignments as they see fit. The Mexican Pledge is in Spanish, so it is relevant. It's not as if the assignment was so outlandish that it had absolutely nothing to do with Spanish class. Also, they are just words. Simply reciting words does not indicate ones allegiance to one country or another. Hell, when I was in grade school, we had to recite the US pledge and had no clue what we were even reciting. It was just that thing that you recite before the day starts. This particular student refused to do the assignment and as such she should receive a failing grade for that particular assignment. End of story. I don't know why people have to politicize every single ****ing thing under the sun and turn it into a question of patriotism. Have things gotten so bad in this country that people are going to get outraged by stupid insignificant crap like this? If you don't agree with the curriculum, take your kid out of the class or get a degree and teach your own class the way you want to.
    I am not outraged....but I am annoyed. Remember, the student was not just asked to say the pledge; she also had to study up on "hispanic culture" and Mexican Independence. Even if she was being asked to do so in Spanish, I object because I infer the teacher had a subagenda of promoting the idea that being a citizen of Mexico is the same as being a citizen of the US.

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    Re: HS Student Refuses To Recite Mexican Pledge Of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The original issue was like the bump in the shopping cart wheel. Not a big deal until you start pushing it all around the store.

    What we illuminated here, IMMHO, was the continued stupidity and hypocrisy of the liberal left on all issues immigration and Mexican illegals. Like a pile of fresh dung. The flies come swarming pretty quick.
    Funny, I would say it is the other way around.

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