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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    48% of income earning members of this society pay no Federal income taxes.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Those thieves are members of the group known as "the people". And they simply saw someone with excess, or at least more than what they themselves had, and decided to redistribute.
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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You must be joking. This type of mentality is of the most dangerous to the nation; to believe the rule of law is arbitrarily applicable based on ones political beliefs.

    If you truly believe that taxation is theft, reality will not treat you very kindly.
    I'm laughing at the irony of it. I don't believe taxation is theft. I do think many of the programs taxes are spent on amounts to nothing short of it. These people want their student loans forgiven. I should have to pay for their student loans? That's theft. These people want to stop foreclosures. I should have to pay for someone's decision to buy a house they can't afford? That's theft. Their whole platform reeks of socialism. They're a bunch of snot-nosed kids who've probably never paid a rent bill in their lives. Supported by parents who taught them very carefully that personal responsibility is obsolete.
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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You must be joking. This type of mentality is of the most dangerous to the nation; to believe the rule of law is arbitrarily applicable based on ones political beliefs.

    If you truly believe that taxation is theft, reality will not treat you very kindly.
    Taking something that belongs to another without consent is theft.

    There are those in this country who, if offered the choice, would choose NOT to volunteer money for taxes, via income, payroll, property, or sales tax. For those people, taxes are, in every since of the word, theft.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    48% of income earning members of this society pay no Federal income taxes.
    Through the legal process, we have determined what exactly constitutes taxable income.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    An obligation of an income earning member of this society.
    And when a guy holds a gun to my face demanding my wallet and my car keys, I am no less obligated to hand those over.

    The difference being, of course, is, on one side, the guy with the gun has a badge and is assuring me this money he's taking is going to serve the society I live in, and on the other side, the guy with gun isn't telling that lie, he's saying it's going to serve himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Taking something that belongs to another without consent is theft.

    There are those in this country who, if offered the choice, would choose NOT to volunteer money for taxes, via income, payroll, property, or sales tax. For those people, taxes are, in every since of the word, theft.
    You are confusing taxation with donation. The two are not mutually exclusive.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Through the legal process, we have determined what exactly constitutes taxable income.
    So it's no longer a case of everyone who has income contributing.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    And when a guy holds a gun to my face demanding my wallet and my car keys, I am no less obligated to hand those over.
    No; you are being robbed which is punishable by law. Those taxes you whine about pay the police to investigate such instances and arrest/prosecute/imprison the lawbreaking party.

    The difference being, of course, is, on one side, the guy with the gun has a badge and is assuring me this money he's taking is going to serve the society I live in, and on the other side, the guy with gun isn't telling that lie, he's saying it's going to serve himself.
    The difference being of course one is based upon the rule of law, where as the other is based upon breaking that law. Whether or not you agree with a law has no bearing as to its legality.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Through the legal process, we have determined what exactly constitutes taxable income.
    No we haven't. That definition is constantly changing, as shown by the numerous court decisions against tax protesters. If you're going to sit there and tell me and everyone in this thread that you don't feel the current tax code is convoluted and nebulous, well, then, I guess there just won't be enough deodorant for this conversation.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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