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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I think we are beginning to see the effects now of something that's been happening for 30 years or so.

    "Too big to fail" is a clear example of what happens when all the eggs are in too few baskets.

    I personally am not money driven. I have an "enough". A point where I don't habe a need for more. I'm not competitive. I'm equipped to compete, I just don't have any interest in doing so.

    So I really don't understand the financially motivated, those who will acquire as much as they can. And I have an active dislike for those who take everything they can get, even when doing so results in someone else having less.

    There is a lot of this activity in our system as it stands right now. Many places where those who decide who gets what from whatever the enterprise is, play the old "One for you. Two for me. One for you. One, two, three for me." Taking all the pie created by everybody in the enterprise for themselves.

    I'm not a "pure" liberal, more Lockean than most with an excessive expression of the genetic compassion trait. But I know LOTS of liberals.

    The meme that the left wants to rob the rich to give to the lazy poor (meaning themselves in most versions) is simply false. There are some unrealistic ideas on the left to be sure, but the same can be said of the right.

    MOST of the liberals I know, when they speak of greed are talking about the EXCESSES of capitalism. NOT capitalism itself.

    As I see it, capitalism is a tool. It is a manmade thing, designed when the worlds resources were considered functionally unlimited. An infinite Commons, if you will. The world is full now, and I think this is one of the factors we are dealing with. A finite and wholly owned Commons.

    It is also inherently concentrative, it IS the amassing of money (capital).

    Hell, the computer can be demonstrated as a major culprit, because most of the activities that are problematic depend almost entirely ON computers. Digital money moves WAY faster than capital did when capitalism was devised.

    Simply put, the system is being gamed. For far too long, capitalism in our country has been demonstrably becoming a BETTER tool for a few than it is for the many. If it is operating properly, all participants in an economy who participate fully should see about the same AMOUNT of improvement in their lot over time. Not the same amount of money, but the same general improvement in each individuals situation. Everybody 10% or whatever better off than they were last year, more or less, ymmv, abberrations not included.

    This ISNT what we are seeing, and given the concentrative nature of capitalism, its not surprising.

    Consider the couple trillion being withheld from the economy right now. That's not millions of small businessmen. That's a relative handful of players who own huge pools of capital. And its having what I expect is a mathematically demonstrable negative effect on the economy, which I believe is intentional and is being done to apply pressure on voters to demand that taxes and regulations be eliminated. None of which will offset labor cost differential enough to make a bit of difference.

    Not too coherent but you should be able to get the gist, feel free to ask for clarification.
    The problems that we may have with the current capitalist system are not computers and some folks being "too capitalist".

    Its government, and most particularly socialists and nanny state folks like that most inept Obama. And the OWS flea-baggers.

    They are the enemy of the engine of capitalism.

    You said the following earlier:

    I actually don't want them to take anything the wealthy already have.

    Id just like to see mechanisms in place to prevent them from grabbing almost all of the new wealth in the first place.

    Leave some fruit on the trees for someone else.
    Wealth is not zero sum. There is nothing between you and "new wealth", except an onerous government of liberal socialist nanny-state leeches, like the OWS folks and their Obama puppet masters, who would confiscate what you might be able to create for yourself.

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    Re: Thieves preying on fellow protesters(Edited)

    Stop the press there is a thief in New York.
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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Child labor laws,
    Teenagers can't get a real job and learn how to actually work, so when they turn 18 they don't have the first clue how to hold down a job, nor what is expected of them.


    environmental laws,
    Alot of which do nothing more than kill jobs and/or jack up the cost of doing business.


    labor laws, etc.
    Like the laws that force workers to join a union, whether they want to, or not? I loved it, when I drove over the road, when I had to actually pay a fork lift operator to unload my truck. They only accepted cash and refused to give me a receipt. That was AWESOME!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You must be joking. This type of mentality is of the most dangerous to the nation; to believe the rule of law is arbitrarily applicable based on ones political beliefs.

    If you truly believe that taxation is theft, reality will not treat you very kindly.
    It's the basis for Liberalism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You didn't ask about wealth inequality. You asked for successful government intervention into the markets. Those were successful government interventions into the market.
    Like when the government interveined in the housing market?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Um... how did the geniuses at the NY post determine they were 'fellow' protesters???

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Those thieves are members of the group known as "the people". And they simply saw someone with excess, or at least more than what they themselves had, and decided to redistribute.
    That's right. They sold that stuff and put supper on the table. Leftists are all about that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why are they crying about it? They want redistribution of wealth. The gal who lost her Mac? Why does she deserve to have a Mac? The guy who stole it had as much as right to it as she did.

    What a great post!
    well said

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I have a question.......I didn't even know you could buy a Mac for $5500. Are there version really this expensive and if so, why would one leave them unattended in a park?
    Her mommy and daddy bought it for her. She don't have a ****ing clue how much it cost.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Thieves teach OWS protestors about redistribution, the hard way

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why are they crying about it? They want redistribution of wealth. The gal who lost her Mac? Why does she deserve to have a Mac? The guy who stole it had as much as right to it as she did.

    What a great post!
    Yeah! She was supporting corporate greed by buying the damn thing. She didn't deserve to even own a computer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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