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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    so the man with 4 houses and 3 boats who inherited his wealth should pay the same as the 9-6 7 days a weeks middle class who has to rent?
    The majority of millionaires didn't inherit their wealth.
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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    what are you counting wealth as?

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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    another narrative could be that the folks who can are being asked to help their country in a time of need. We are kind of in a crisis and all.

    ymmv
    A crisis created and continued by government policies.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    what are you counting wealth as?
    People with net assets of $500k or more.
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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    most conservatives would note that merely jacking up taxes on the rich only encourages those who pander to the non-rich to use that hike to justify more SPENDING to buy more votes
    That's exactly what happened in WWII iirc.

    But it is a great talking point. I can see why you like to keep repeating it anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    others would correctly note that making a small group responsible for "helping the country in time of need" (in other words bailing out an irresponsible and spendthrift gaggle of scumbag politicians) encourages others to see that duty as something they don't have to shoulder
    I don't think that the politicians are the one who need bailing out. ymmv

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    finally, I would note that giving an addict more dope might make him feel better but its the worst thing you can do in the long run
    I'll keep that in mind for when I meet an addict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am curious Simon, i have looked with interest to see where you are "conservative" and I have not been very successful finding much of that.
    You and all of your concerns about people instead of the issues.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    so the man with 4 houses and 3 boats who inherited his wealth should pay the same as the 9-6 7 days a weeks middle class who has to rent?
    Whose saying that the millionares shouldn't pay any taxes...like the working stiff that has to rent?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Before we devolve any further into wealthy people being elitist Paris Hilton, wannabe's.

    millionaire-myths: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance
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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    has nothing to do with envy its all about equal oppourtunity! The richest of Americans mostly grew up in rich familes and had the oppourtunity to have the best education, go to the best college and come out debt free. The majority of the middle/lower class went to under funded public schools and then went to state college and came out with 20k plus in student debt which takes years to pay off and prevents them from spending which in turn would benefit the country. The upper class benefited and still are benefiting from the captalist system and it's only fair that they pay some back and allow our children to have a fighting chance.
    that's horsecrap. I have no duty to pay for your children. most rich people are rich because they have benefited society rather greatly. I get nothing in addition to what you get from the GOVERNMENT and I certainly don't get any benefits from people like you so why should I be taxed EVEN MORE (I pay far far more than the average citizen) and GET NOTHING more in return

    Its like saying that the honors students ought to be forced to tutor the slackers because those who EARNED A averages benefit more from school than the class clowns, and the morons who don't do their homework or attend class regularly



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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    That's exactly what happened in WWII iirc.

    But it is a great talking point. I can see why you like to keep repeating it anyway.

    I don't think that the politicians are the one who need bailing out. ymmv

    I'll keep that in mind for when I meet an addict.

    Argument by analogy only works for people who agree with you already

    You and all of your concerns about people instead of the issues.
    I tend to respect honesty.



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    Re: N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I tend to respect honesty.
    me too. Would you like to talk about the stuff going in NY?
    I may be wrong.

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