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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    No, expensive live saving procedures will be priced and taxed out of the market.

    You'll have to settle for the same crap every other American gets.

    But you'll be equal!
    Not sure what you mean. In fact, under a UHC they spend less, not more.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, they are not. but you're confusing two things. He quoted Obama and did so inaccurately.
    You mistakenly think I care what Obama has to say here.

    But, not being able to pay for something is not equal to a death panel. No one sits down and says we need to kill granny. No one says due to age or illness, we need to be rid of this person. Be it insurance or government, there are simply what we will pay for and what we won't. You're free, of course, to pay for it yourself. But no one is deciding who lives and who dies.
    In all reality they are. Really, is your arguement here that not having insurance to pick up our health needs is no big deal, just pay for it yourself?

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    You mistakenly think I care what Obama has to say here.
    I have no such thought. You reply to a comment I made to someone else who misquoted Obama. You don't reply, we don't talk about it.


    In all reality they are. Really, is your arguement here that not having insurance to pick up our health needs is no big deal, just pay for it yourself?
    No, not even in reality. They do not sit down and decide who is going to die. Our insurance companies don't and our government doesn't.

    And no, that is my argument. My argument is all things have cost prohibations. Something being cost prohibative is not equal to a death panel. When we sit at the kitchen table and say we can't afford it, it's not a death panel. When insurance companies say we can't cover everything, it is not a death panel. And neither is it when the government does it. no one is sitting down and saying let this person die.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

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    News from The Associated Press


    I applaud President Obama for this bold, and intelligent move to start dismantling the disaster that is "Obamacare".
    Maybe they could setup a death panel for this law.
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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe they could setup a death panel for this law.
    The dream of the repubnlican party, do nothing with heath care.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure what you mean. In fact, under a UHC they spend less, not more.
    Every American will get the same crap health care. Expensive life saving procedures will be taxed or regulated out of existence.

    It's the way you want it, right?

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Every American will get the same crap health care. Expensive life saving procedures will be taxed or regulated out of existence.

    It's the way you want it, right?
    That's simply not ture. Not only can we have a two tiered system in which you can buy your own insurance, but we certainly would in this country. I suggest you investigate UHC more, espeically the variety of options available with a single payer system, which includes a two teired system.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    The objective of Obamacare is to shove private practice over a cliff. That is already happening.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

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    The objective of Obamacare is to shove private practice over a cliff. That is already happening.
    Hardly. That's merely your mistaken belief. Sorry. Obama has worked too closely with insurance companies for anyone to actually believe what you're saying.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    No, Obamacare declares war on private, for profit practices.

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