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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We don't pay for them now, and it's not a death panel. This is the point. It's a dishonest representation.

    No, we can't pay for everything. We can't now. And panels with every insurance comapny, and at our own kitichen tables makes these decicions daily, and none of it can be called a death panle honestly. Language matters, and how we present something matters. When we do so dishonestly, we corrupt the discourse.
    Someone asking for civil, honest language in political discourse? On the Internet?! The outrage!

    Well said, Boo.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We don't pay for them now, and it's not a death panel. This is the point. It's a dishonest representation.

    No, we can't pay for everything. We can't now. And panels with every insurance comapny, and at our own kitichen tables makes these decicions daily, and none of it can be called a death panle honestly. Language matters, and how we present something matters. When we do so dishonestly, we corrupt the discourse.
    Its a Death Panel......period. Neither the patient or the family will be involved in these decisions, some unelected bureaucrats will decide when Granny takes the blue pill and goes home to die ...... those are BO's words.
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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Its a Death Panel......period. Neither the patient or the family will be involved in these decisions, some unelected bureaucrats will decide when Granny takes the blue pill and goes home to die ...... those are BO's words.
    No, it isn't. And it is dishonest to call it such. And you're misrepresenting Obama's words. We really shouldn't have to go through this again. There is no place for such dishonesty in reasonable discourrse.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There is no place for such dishonesty in reasonable discourrse.
    Ok, stop playing word games and be honest.
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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Ok, stop playing word games and be honest.
    No word games. There is no death panel. It is dishonest to call anything being discussed in reform as a death panel. You misrepresented Obama's words. That's a fact. I'm sorry, but the dishonesty here is not on my part.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We don't pay for them now, and it's not a death panel. This is the point. It's a dishonest representation.
    "We"? I'm guessing it is their insurance that pays. While transplants aren't real common, heart surgery on the elderly is. When we say "no" what should we call it other than a statement to go home and die?

    No, we can't pay for everything. We can't now. And panels with every insurance comapny, and at our own kitichen tables makes these decicions daily, and none of it can be called a death panle honestly. Language matters, and how we present something matters. When we do so dishonestly, we corrupt the discourse.
    Honestly it can. It may make you uncomfortable but in plain language this is what they are. Deciding who will live and who will die.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it isn't. And it is dishonest to call it such. And you're misrepresenting Obama's words. We really shouldn't have to go through this again. There is no place for such dishonesty in reasonable discourrse.
    This has nothing to do with Obama.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    as if "death panels" don't already exist in the private insurance industry.

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    as if "death panels" don't already exist in the private insurance industry.
    They do. That's my point. Why the gnashing of teeth over what simply is?

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    Re: Obama pulls plug on part of health overhaul law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    This has nothing to do with Obama.
    When he misrepresent what Obama said, that is something to do with Obama.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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