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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Then surly going into Iraq to stop Saddam from gassing Kurd villages, invading his neighbors, and killing any citizen of Iraq that opposed his rule was "the right thing to do".
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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    I seriously can't believe everyone in this thread is patting Obama on the back. Yes, Africa/Congo/CAR is ****ed up. Has been for a long time. Yes, the Lord's Resistance Army is a horrendous organization. I'm surprised that few people, if any, here have mentioned mission creep. This is a throwback to the **** we were doing during the cold war - in Latin America, and in Vietnam (and I'm sure there are many other examples) before that blew up in our faces as well.

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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So you are saying the real reson we are going there is war for resources?
    I never stated that at all.

    EDIT: I was just saying that Uganda does in fact have oil.


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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Joseph Kony is one of the worst human rights villains on this planet today, his attrocities are among the worst ever committed by mankind.

    Having said that I'm apprehensive about this mission, the Ugandan army has been fighting this guy for the better part of two decades, I don't think 100 US "Observers" are going to suddenly flush him out, and this seems quite honestly extremely random, like it was a sudden thought he had today... I dunno.

    Anyway as I said, apprehensive, not sure why he's suddenly doing it and since it's going to happen anyway, I hope they catch the guy and nail him to a cross using the bayonets of his dead bodygaurds.
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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I seriously can't believe everyone in this thread is patting Obama on the back. Yes, Africa/Congo/CAR is ****ed up. Has been for a long time. Yes, the Lord's Resistance Army is a horrendous organization. I'm surprised that few people, if any, here have mentioned mission creep. This is a throwback to the **** we were doing during the cold war - in Latin America, and in Vietnam (and I'm sure there are many other examples) before that blew up in our faces as well.
    There is less likely to be mission creep in a case like this than there is in wars we enter for political reasons. In this case, the mission is pretty clearly defined (capture/kill Joseph Kony and disrupt the LRA's ability to operate), it is widely supported among both the governments and the people of the countries in question, and it doesn't require much manpower to pull it off.

    If the US is going to intervene in other countries, this is exactly the type of place and situation where we can do a lot of good for very little cost. I'd much rather be involved here than in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Libya.
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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    I'm very happy to see that Human Rights Watch has come out in favor of military action against the Lord's Resistance Army.
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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There is less likely to be mission creep in a case like this than there is in wars we enter for political reasons. In this case, the mission is pretty clearly defined (capture/kill Joseph Kony and disrupt the LRA's ability to operate), it is widely supported among both the governments and the people of the countries in question, and it doesn't require much manpower to pull it off.

    If the US is going to intervene in other countries, this is exactly the type of place and situation where we can do a lot of good for very little cost. I'd much rather be involved here than in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Libya.
    All wars are entered into for political reasons. If there's no political objective, it's totally pointless to become involved.
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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    This thread is about one of the world's most insane and inhumane person humanity has ever seen, and how to deal with him. If you want to turn this into another anti-Obama slugfest, take it somewhere else. Please
    Which makes me wonder why some folks really had a problem with invading Iraq. Saddam Hussein was insane and inhumane. He murdered 300+ people. I doubt Joeseph Kony can boast such numbers.

    Ultimately, we have to ask ourselves who we're going in to help fight the LRA.

    Is it the Sudanese People's Liberation Army? They're fighting against the LRA, so we can list them among our, "allies", in the region.

    GoSS: SPLA Commits Atrocities against Shilluk Civilians | Pachodo.org English Articles

    Is it the Uganda People's Army? They've committed atrocities against the people of Uganda and are among our, "allies", that we're supporting.

    Uganda: Army and Rebels Commit Atrocities in the North | Human Rights Watch
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    Re: Obama Sends U.S. Troops to Central Africa to Aid Campaign Against Rebel Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There is less likely to be mission creep in a case like this than there is in wars we enter for political reasons. In this case, the mission is pretty clearly defined (capture/kill Joseph Kony and disrupt the LRA's ability to operate), it is widely supported among both the governments and the people of the countries in question, and it doesn't require much manpower to pull it off.

    If the US is going to intervene in other countries, this is exactly the type of place and situation where we can do a lot of good for very little cost. I'd much rather be involved here than in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Libya.
    We enter all wars for political reasons...

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