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    Topline Results of Oct. 9-10, 2011, TIME Poll (Occupy wall street polling well)

    Sorry about the title, its the article title name, however I added something a little more specific in parenthesis.

    Topline Results of Oct. 9-10, 2011, TIME Poll | Swampland | TIME.com

    8. ON ANOTHER ISSUE, IS YOUR OPINION OF THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT VERY FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT UNFAVORABLE, VERY UNFAVORABLE, OR DON’T YOU KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE TEA PARTY TO HAVE AN OPINION? VERY FAVORABLE 8%
    SOMEWHAT FAVORABLE 19%
    SOMEWHAT UNFAVORABLE 9%
    VERY UNFAVORABLE 24%
    DON’T KNOW ENOUGH 39%
    NO ANSWER/DON’T KNOW 1%
    Q9. HAS THE THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT ON AMERICAN POLITICS TODAY, A NEGATIVE IMPACT, OR HAS IT HAD LITTLE IMPACT?
    BASE: FAMILIAR WITH TEA PARTY (669)
    POSITIVE IMPACT 34%
    NEGATIVE IMPACT 40%
    LITTLE IMPACT 25%
    NO ANSWER/DON’T KNOW 2%
    Q10. DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A MEMBER OR FOLLOWER OF THE TEA PARTY, OR NOT?
    BASE: FAMILIAR WITH TEA PARTY (669)
    YES 11%
    NO 88%
    NO ANSWER/ DON’T KNOW 1%
    Q10. DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A MEMBER OR FOLLOWER OF THE TEA PARTY, OR NOT?
    YES 6%
    NO 93%
    NO ANSWER/ DON’T KNOW 1%
    Q11. IN THE PAST FEW DAYS, A GROUP OF PROTESTORS HAS BEEN GATHERING ON WALL STREET IN NEW YORK CITY AND SOME OTHER CITIES TO PROTEST POLICIES WHICH THEY SAY FAVOR THE RICH, THE GOVERNMENT’S BANK BAILOUT, AND THE INFLUENCE OF MONEY IN OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM. IS YOUR OPINION OF THESE PROTESTS VERY FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT UNFAVORABLE, VERY UNFAVORABLE, OR DON’T YOU KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE PROTESTS TO HAVE AN OPINION?
    VERY FAVORABLE 25%
    SOMEWHAT FAVORABLE 29%
    SOMEWHAT UNFAVORABLE 10%
    VERY UNFAVORABLE 13%
    DON’T KNOW ENOUGH 23%
    NO ANSWER/DON’T KNOW 1%
    Q12. DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THAT POSITION?
    A. WALL STREET AND ITS LOBBYISTS HAVE TOO MUCH INFLUENCE IN WASHINGTON
    BASE: FAMILIAR WITH PROTESTS (787)
    AGREE 86%
    DISAGREE 11%
    NO ANSWER/DON’T KNOW 4%
    Q12. DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THAT POSITION?
    B. THE GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR IN THE UNITED STATES HAS GROWN TOO LARGE
    BASE: FAMILIAR WITH PROTESTS (787)
    AGREE 79%
    DISAGREE 17%
    NO ANSWER/DON’T KNOW 3%
    There are frustratingly few polls on the occupy wall street protestors, this is the only recent one I have been able to find. What is not surprising coming out of this is that the OWS protestors are more popular at the moment than the tea party. Personally I think this is for two primary reasons.
    1. As a population, we like new and shiny political things (basically we are in the honeymoon period for the OWS people)
    2. The tea party has gained baggage over the recent budget showdowns, where they are primarily blamed.

    Because of these two factors, I am not sure that conservatives should be too worried about the OWS movement as that honeymoon period will end and public opinion will settle to lower levels, basically following the same trend line that the tea party does, but with a different time table (I am not sure of the time table, as it depends on how quickly the movement gains baggage). This is my opinion of course.

    Also what the jury is out about is how this dynamic will affect the elections.
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    Re: Topline Results of Oct. 9-10, 2011, TIME Poll (Occupy wall street polling well)

    As a member of the Tea Party Movement I can easily state the folks in this movement are not at all concerned or even interested in what a few hundred stinky college socialists say or do. We came out in droves last November and dramatically altered the political landscape, both in DC and statehouses across the country. We will be back in November of 2012 and will continue our quest to elect people that support a smaller federal government. Nothing has changed since November, actually the economy has become weaker and BO's regulatory czars are more out of control. Nope, the Tea Party folks don't wake up each day and look at polls to see if their beliefs are acceptable to the masses. We are the silent majority, we proved it in 2010 and we will again in 2012.

    BTW - when the public wakes up and learns about the level of anti-semitism in the Occupy crowds, the opinion polls will shift in a very big way.
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    Re: Topline Results of Oct. 9-10, 2011, TIME Poll (Occupy wall street polling well)

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    As a member of the Tea Party Movement I can easily state the folks in this movement are not at all concerned or even interested in what a few hundred stinky college socialists say or do. We came out in droves last November and dramatically altered the political landscape, both in DC and statehouses across the country. We will be back in November of 2012 and will continue our quest to elect people that support a smaller federal government. Nothing has changed since November, actually the economy has become weaker and BO's regulatory czars are more out of control. Nope, the Tea Party folks don't wake up each day and look at polls to see if their beliefs are acceptable to the masses. We are the silent majority, we proved it in 2010 and we will again in 2012.

    BTW - when the public wakes up and learns about the level of anti-semitism in the Occupy crowds, the opinion polls will shift in a very big way.
    Q10. DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A MEMBER OR FOLLOWER OF THE TEA PARTY, OR NOT?
    BASE: FAMILIAR WITH TEA PARTY (669)
    YES 11%
    NO 88%
    NO ANSWER/ DON’T KNOW 1%
    I will take actual data over the insistence of an internet post of course.

    Also, don't be so quick to dismiss people, this movement does have a large potential of tapping into the general dissatisfaction people are feeling about economic matters. If that happens, its no longer "dirty hippies" but bob down the street.
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    Re: Topline Results of Oct. 9-10, 2011, TIME Poll (Occupy wall street polling well)

    q11. In the past few days, a group of protestors has been gathering on wall street in new york city and some other cities to protest policies which they say favor the rich, the governmentís bank bailout, and the influence of money in our political system. Is your opinion of these protests very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, very unfavorable, or donít you know enough about the protests to have an opinion?
    very favorable 25%
    somewhat favorable 29%

    somewhat unfavorable 10%
    very unfavorable 13%
    donít know enough 23%
    no answer/donít know 1%
    q12. Do you agree or disagree with that position?
    a. wall street and its lobbyists have too much influence in washington
    base: familiar with protests (787)
    agree 86%
    disagree 11%
    no answer/donít know 4%
    q12. Do you agree or disagree with that position?
    b. the gap between rich and poor in the united states has grown too large
    base: familiar with protests (787)
    agree 79%
    disagree 17%
    no answer/donít know 3%

    It's not often we see numbers like these for much of anything that's political.

    Very interesting.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Topline Results of Oct. 9-10, 2011, TIME Poll (Occupy wall street polling well)

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    q11. In the past few days, a group of protestors has been gathering on wall street in new york city and some other cities to protest policies which they say favor the rich, the government’s bank bailout, and the influence of money in our political system. Is your opinion of these protests very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, very unfavorable, or don’t you know enough about the protests to have an opinion?
    very favorable 25%
    somewhat favorable 29%

    somewhat unfavorable 10%
    very unfavorable 13%
    don’t know enough 23%
    no answer/don’t know 1%
    q12. Do you agree or disagree with that position?
    a. wall street and its lobbyists have too much influence in washington
    base: familiar with protests (787)
    agree 86%
    disagree 11%
    no answer/don’t know 4%
    q12. Do you agree or disagree with that position?
    b. the gap between rich and poor in the united states has grown too large
    base: familiar with protests (787)
    agree 79%
    disagree 17%
    no answer/don’t know 3%

    It's not often we see numbers like these for much of anything that's political.

    Very interesting.
    Right now people are looking for an outlet for their frustrations for the poor economy in general. The tea party captured their attention for a while and now this is the new thing on the block.

    However, most people aren't so ideological that they will attach themselves to any movement for life, so attention will wane after a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    BTW - when the public wakes up and learns about the level of anti-semitism in the Occupy crowds, the opinion polls will shift in a very big way.
    I suspect you'll be disappointed in that. I haven't noticed any impression among anyone I know of the crew being homogeneous.
    Is there any indication elsewhere that people believe the OWS crew is homogeneous or monolithic?
    Additionally, I doubt that anyone expects all that much coherence out of the OWS crew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Right now people are looking for an outlet for their frustrations for the poor economy in general. The tea party captured their attention for a while and now this is the new thing on the block.
    However, most people aren't so ideological that they will attach themselves to any movement for life, so attention will wane after a while.
    I don't think those bottom two numbers are likely to change all that much until the economic climate changes.

    But I agree that the interest in the OWS stuff will lose momentum. But the issues and perceptions involved with "wall street and its lobbyists have too much influence in Washington" & "the gap between rich and poor in the united states has grown too large" are not likely to fall to the wayside until people are able to be distracted from their own personal economic problems.
    I may be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I suspect you'll be disappointed in that. I haven't noticed any impression among anyone I know of the crew being homogeneous.
    Is there any indication elsewhere that people believe the OWS crew is homogeneous or monolithic?
    Additionally, I doubt that anyone expects all that much coherence out of the OWS crew.
    ymmv
    Maybe so. This is the stuff that is starting to show up with the Occupy crowds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Maybe so. This is the stuff that is starting to show up with the Occupy crowds....
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    Re: Topline Results of Oct. 9-10, 2011, TIME Poll (Occupy wall street polling well)

    looking at that link I notice two things
    1. Its four signs that are shown over and over again
    2. I wonder what the reaction would be if people started posting racist tea party signs.

    In any movement like this, we are going to get a few crazies. We just spent months trying to show that a few crazies with signs does not make a whole movement with the tea party, did we not learn from this at all?
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