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Big Win for 'Occupy Wall Street' Protesters?

I'm gonna try to go to one of the protests in Manhattan tomorrow. Either an afternoon march or the big protest in Times Square. It should be tons of fun, and I will hold a sign saying this:

NO- Communism/Fascism

YES- Social democracy/equality

:)
 
lol. They don't tax em' enough?
What puts us in debt is over spending right? YES! The government is giving how much money they ask for so therefore its the governments fault if they overspend!
Anyways your saying the CEO's don't deserve the fruit of their risks? They risk money and run a business. Now do they work hard I'm pretty sure at one point in time they did. Now do I agree that they should have so much excess? No.
You fail to realize how people get elected to the government.
They make promises. They point fingers at the other party. If a candidate shouts loud enough he'll be elected. In other words, advertising. Advertising is how they get elected, so obviously, a billionaire has an advantage over your average middle class working American. Even if they aren't in politics, these guys can funnel in their money to manipulate the media, and thus, the government.
 
I'm gonna try to go to one of the protests in Manhattan tomorrow. Either an afternoon march or the big protest in Times Square. It should be tons of fun, and I will hold a sign saying this:
NO- Communism/Fascism
YES- Social democracy/equality
:)

Oh lordy. Calling a duck a goose certainly makes a difference.

Have fun, I'll try to work this weekend to offset your lack of productivity :p :p

ps. it may not just be dog poo you're stepping in!
 
You fail to realize how people get elected to the government.
They make promises. They point fingers at the other party. If a candidate shouts loud enough he'll be elected. In other words, advertising. Advertising is how they get elected, so obviously, a billionaire has an advantage over your average middle class working American. Even if they aren't in politics, these guys can funnel in their money to manipulate the media, and thus, the government.

Wait!?!?! You mean lobbyist help elect government officials!?!?! Oh lawd jesus christ I did not know.
A billionaire has an advantage over a middle class working american? Well of course. The good thing is both democrats and republicans have a lot of rich people for both sides. So whats your point? My first statement "Lol. They don't tax em' enough?" was sarcasm. I'm against high taxes. But I do believe you have to pay ceaser whats ceaser's. I know politicians make promises and I know that majority of the time they don't go through. But its still the governments fault for over spending. And the rich people shouldn't be blamed for the overspending of the government.
 
Wait!?!?! You mean lobbyist help elect government officials!?!?! Oh lawd jesus christ I did not know.
A billionaire has an advantage over a middle class working american? Well of course. The good thing is both democrats and republicans have a lot of rich people for both sides. So whats your point? My first statement "Lol. They don't tax em' enough?" was sarcasm. I'm against high taxes. But I do believe you have to pay ceaser whats ceaser's. I know politicians make promises and I know that majority of the time they don't go through. But its still the governments fault for over spending. And the rich people shouldn't be blamed for the overspending of the government.

Well gee. What else do you expect the government to do when cleaning up the messes left behind by those corporations?
 
To make you happy, I'd say yes, but that would be a lie.
 
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Explain to me how it's government's fault that CEO salaries are now 350 times the average worker's salary in this country (where it's more like 30 to 50x in most other capitalist nations).

IMO it's none of the governments business.......until that business comes crawling for tax payers dollars.
 
So you don't want the government to intervene if, say, 99.9% of the country were making four cents an hour, and the other .1% were making millions upon millions?
 
Hey this is indeed good news everyone. I can't source this but apparently bloomberg received some phone calls from elected officials urging them not to "clean" the park and that if they didn't they would make his life horrible (I'm paraphrasing by the way). I just saw this on the last word on Msnbc.

Btw I have been down to Liberty Plaza twice in the last two weeks. The numbers are steadily growing and it is EXTREMELY organized. It is also made up of very intelligent people. The people who criticize them are people who have no idea what they are talking about because they just mindlessly listen to political pundits who are stuck in the 19th century.

I am very proud to be a part of this growing movement and if you are against corporate plutocracy, you should join them.
 
I feel like the owners of the Park chickened out and will use the cleanup operations protesters have embarked upon as the reason.
I personally believe the Park's owners are afraid of the riot that was sure break.
I also believe that some of the unwashed masses are hoping for a spark to set off riot to give these fools a chance to loot etc.

Big Win for 'Occupy Wall Street' Protesters? - Fox News Video - Fox News


I still don't even know what they're protesting about :doh
 
yes you do. you would be foolish not to. It's very obvious what they are protesting about.

I've been in platoon activities for about 18 per-day for a while. We don't exactly have CNN on the IED lane. Mind cluing me in?

All I get on news feeds are "the protesters are over here"...and "the park needs to be cleaned". I have no idea why there are protesters at all to start with.
 
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I've been in platoon activities for about 18 per-day for a while. We don't exactly have CNN on the IED lane. Mind cluing me in?

All I get on news feeds are "the protesters are over here"...and "the park needs to be cleaned". I have no idea why there are protesters at all to start with.

The country is literally run by corporations who use the power to further enrich themselves at taxpayer expense and that's starting to annoy some people.
 
@Jerry

"Occupy Wall Street is an otherwise unaffiliated group of concerned citizens who have together with the purpose of holding Wall Street (as the drivers of an increasingly undemocratic power structure) accountable for their fiscal recklnessness and criminal perversion of the democratic process."

The above is taken from the flyer they hand out down at Liberty Plaza.

My apologies. I thought you were just being difficult. The media is trying to spin the protests as "meaningless".
 
@Jerry

"Occupy Wall Street is an otherwise unaffiliated group of concerned citizens who have together with the purpose of holding Wall Street (as the drivers of an increasingly undemocratic power structure) accountable for their fiscal recklnessness and criminal perversion of the democratic process."

The above is taken from the flyer they hand out down at Liberty Plaza.

My apologies. I thought you were just being difficult. The media is trying to spin the protests as "meaningless".

Nothing to apologize for, most of the time I am just being difficult :p

So are these corporate entities the same folks responsible for Enron etc?
 
I've been in platoon activities for about 18 per-day for a while. We don't exactly have CNN on the IED lane. Mind cluing me in?
All I get on news feeds are "the protesters are over here"...and "the park needs to be cleaned". I have no idea why there are protesters at all to start with.
It's not actually clear that all of the protester know either, so don't feel bad.
Most people over don't know what they're protesting either.

afaict
It's all somehow tied to a sense of collusion between moneyed interests and politicians.
After that, it gets fuzzy, murky, and much more diverse and vague.
 
Nothing to apologize for, most of the time I am just being difficult :p

So are these corporate entities the same folks responsible for Enron etc?

Same sort of group, yes. (Enron-specific individuals are either in jail or dead for the most part)
 
The country is literally run by corporations who use the power to further enrich themselves at taxpayer expense and that's starting to annoy some people.
Lobbies of various sorts, (not just business corporations), supply our legislator with favors of sorts and in return, our legislators provide the interests with favorable legislation. Sometimes that legislation directs taxpayer money to those who the lobbies represent.

It's kind of a truism that I have been bitching about for a while.
 
So you don't want the government to intervene if, say, 99.9% of the country were making four cents an hour, and the other .1% were making millions upon millions?

Are there any martians or dragons involved in this scenario?
 
Same sort of group, yes. (Enron-specific individuals are either in jail or dead for the most part)

Which raises the question as to why nobody has been charged in this mess.
 
You know this from experience?
It matches my experience. More than that I can't say.

I don't mean that people are protesting w/o any idea of what that individual person is protesting, but rather that many individuals don't necessarily know what their neighbors are protesting, and, that the number of things that individual protesters have mentioned is very diverse and lengthy.
 
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