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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    People can still be asked to leave for abuse in that situation. Squatting, littering, and other abusive activities including remaining after forbidden all qualify.
    The same way that a mall owner can make it a gun free zone, or he can regulate free speech within the confines of his property, even though the mall is open to the public.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, it's still private property. If the owners want to protect their property by cleaning up the trash, they are well within their rights to order the entertainers to leave.
    But the hippies cleaned it up themselves, saving the company money.

    No harm no foul.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    But the hippies cleaned it up themselves, saving the company money.

    No harm no foul.
    Obviously, they didn't.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    People can still be asked to leave for abuse in that situation. Squatting, littering, and other abusive activities including remaining after forbidden all qualify.
    So I see that you respect reasonable limitations on free speech.

    I will expect your support in future for efforts to place reasonable limits on campaign contribution "speech".
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Property rights, guaranteed by the Constitution, didn't go out the window, just because people have been tricked into thinking that Wall Street is responsible for the depression.
    How is Wall Street not responsible for their own actions?
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said only Liberals, but there were Liberals who were neck deep in the plan: Frank, Dodd, Waters, Clinton, Lee, the list goes on.

    It doesn't really matter which political party was involved the most. What matters is that we stop trying to insist that it was, "all Wall Street's fault".
    So you DO NOT have any evidence to support the boast you made

    The Libbos wanted everyone to own a house. You wanted poor people to make 6 figure loans, because that was, "fair". Well, you got exactly what you asked for.

    Your statement was not only one of your own extremist beliefs, it is unsupported by fact and is misleading in the extreme.

    You should either support it with verifiable evidence or withdraw it and apologize for slurring people.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, it's still private property.
    It's "private property" which through contract became public (if I've understood what people have said about the park thus far). I think in this case, you have to treat it as any other public space.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The same way that a mall owner can make it a gun free zone, or he can regulate free speech within the confines of his property, even though the mall is open to the public.
    A mall is commercial and is subject to different rules than a park space.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    So I see that you respect reasonable limitations on free speech.

    I will expect your support in future for efforts to place reasonable limits on campaign contribution "speech".
    Where did you get that from? But yes I do support restrictions on speech such as treason, incitement to riot, and other dangerous speech. I don't see why you brought that argument here though since I said people can be asked to leave for abusive behavior and not speech. If the crew cannot clean the park up then obviously the crowd is engaging in abusive behavior.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obviously, they didn't.
    Have you seen any reports on the issue this morning that weren't on Fox?

    Seriously, they cleaned it up.

    There's a big Rainbow Family presence/influence at OWS.

    And them fools can clean. They even clean poo. I have cleaned poo at a Rainbow Gathering.

    There's a big protest scheduled for Saturday, nationwide.

    THATS why they tried to shut down occupations across the country yesterday/today.
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