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    Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

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    Drug shortages mean a growing number of Americans aren't getting the medications they need. That's causing drug companies and doctors to ration available medications in some cases.

    "We're now at 213 shortages for this year," says Erin Fox of the University of Utah, who tracks national drug shortages. "That surpasses last year's total of 211. And it doesn't seem like there's an end in sight."

    The shortages involve a wide range of medications: cancer chemotherapy agents, anesthetics, antibiotics, electrolytes needed for nutrient solutions, and dozens more. One drug currently in short supply is used in critically ill patients to bring down soaring blood pressure.
    This is unbelievable. There is no excuse for having this situation in the United States. The profit motive is essential to ensure there are enough drugs. Take that away, and the companies have no incentive to produce the drugs. Of course, detractors would note that this is what is wrong with the profit-driven system.

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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

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    This is unbelievable. There is no excuse for having this situation in the United States. The profit motive is essential to ensure there are enough drugs. Take that away, and the companies have no incentive to produce the drugs. Of course, detractors would note that this is what is wrong with the profit-driven system.

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    Um. Are you suggesting these shortages are a result of a lack of profit motive? I'm not sure I'm understanding your post.
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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

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    This is unbelievable. There is no excuse for having this situation in the United States. The profit motive is essential to ensure there are enough drugs. Take that away, and the companies have no incentive to produce the drugs. Of course, detractors would note that this is what is wrong with the profit-driven system.

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    i can't agree with your conclusions. read this excerpt from the cited article:
    ... But actually, officials at the Food and Drug Administration say only 11 percent of shortages happen because a company decides to stop making an unprofitable drug. Most shortages, they say, occur because something goes wrong in the manufacturing process that halts production.

    The problem today is there are fewer companies making essential drugs. So when one manufacturer stops producing, there may be only one other supplier – and it can't keep up with demand. ...
    that 11% will provide an opportunity for some supplier
    because the shortage will force the price of these generic drugs to increase to the point it will become profitable for a manufacturer to once again fabricate the medical concoctions
    the invisible hand will work

    as for the other 89% due to manufacturing snafus and the absence of alternative sources, the article tells us little. are there no alternative vendors because of the proprietary claims of the present manufacturers? if so, we have two choices, eliminate the proprietary rights and go generic ... to join that other 11% described above, or tolerate flawed product when the manufacturing snafus occur. neither seems a good option
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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i can't agree with your conclusions. read this excerpt from the cited article:
    that 11% will provide an opportunity for some supplier
    because the shortage will force the price of these generic drugs to increase to the point it will become profitable for a manufacturer to once again fabricate the medical concoctions
    the invisible hand will work

    as for the other 89% due to manufacturing snafus and the absence of alternative sources, the article tells us little. are there no alternative vendors because of the proprietary claims of the present manufacturers? if so, we have two choices, eliminate the proprietary rights and go generic ... to join that other 11% described above, or tolerate flawed product when the manufacturing snafus occur. neither seems a good option
    Alot of the drugs I expect also have a limited shelf life making manufacturing issues even more of an issue
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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

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    This is unbelievable. There is no excuse for having this situation in the United States. The profit motive is essential to ensure there are enough drugs. Take that away, and the companies have no incentive to produce the drugs. Of course, detractors would note that this is what is wrong with the profit-driven system.

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    there's plenty of profit motive.

    perhaps if a company can't or won't meet demand for an essential drug, it should significantly shorten their patent on it. plenty of generic companies are ready to crank these medicines out by the ton, and at a moment's notice.

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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

    The US has a closed system so when the protected pharmaceutical manufacturers can't meet demand it is the citizens of the US who suffer. There is virtually no reason for manufacturers to spend the money to make sure manufacturing does not break down because they don't have to worry that their competition will fill in the gap while they are down. If we had a free market economy in play, things would be done much differently.

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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    This is unbelievable. There is no excuse for having this situation in the United States. The profit motive is essential to ensure there are enough drugs. Take that away, and the companies have no incentive to produce the drugs. Of course, detractors would note that this is what is wrong with the profit-driven system.
    What are you rambling about? The pharmaceutical industry is very well protected by government favoritism and earns a nice big fat profit because of it. In 2009, they were the third leading industry in regards to profit margin, earning average profit of 19.3 cents per dollar of sales
    Fortune 500 2009: Top Performers - Most Profitable Industries: Return on Revenues

    As of this year, major drug manufacturers earn an average of 16.7 cents per dollar of sales.
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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

    Not a shock at all... happens when you live in a monopolistic system like the US.
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    Re: Shortages Lead Doctors To Ration Critical Drugs

    I have 3 Stints in my heart requiring that I take blood thinner and Plavix every day for the rest of my life and there is no Generic I can buy, and the pills cost $200 at Walmart so I don't want to hear how the profit margins are two small.

    If they a medication that doesn't leave then with a big profit, they make it up with outrages profits on another one.

    I figure Plavix real cost is most likely about $0.25 per pill if that. I sure hope the Congress passes some kind Law to stop this BS.

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    We should import medications from Canada.
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