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Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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Conservative said:
I am sure you would including WWII which helped a lot
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Interesting seeing you credit FDR's successful economy because of WWII and then at the same time not too long ago excuse GW Bush's failed economy on the fact that he had to go to war because of 9/11. A little consistency please.
 
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Jryan said:
Conservative, why did you ignore Redress's posts?
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Because he ignores anything that proves him wrong. It's his way.

After this post he'll say no ones proven him wrong, he'll do his classic copy paste, he'll tell me I'm a blind liberal that doesn't want to see reality and the Obama record...

Pretty much.

Of his 20, 000+ posts, you can bet that 60% of them are just the copypasta + how terrible liberals are.

He's a man of little substance.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Because he ignores anything that proves him wrong. It's his way.

After this post he'll say no ones proven him wrong, he'll do his classic copy paste, he'll tell me I'm a blind liberal that doesn't want to see reality and the Obama record...

Pretty much.

Of his 20, 000+ posts, you can bet that 60% of them are just the copypasta + how terrible liberals are.

He's a man of little substance.
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Yep, that is it, I always run from people in this forum. By the way I love you too
 
Conservative said:
Yep, that is it, I always run from people in this forum. By the way I love you too
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I actually appreciate you taking the effort to say something nice about someone else for a change, even though it is sarcastic, rather than trolling them and belittling people you don't know. It is noted and appreciated.
 
poweRob said:
Nahhh. your lies have been debunked.

Not just ONCE...

But TWICE...

by two different people.
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So you say, yet the data posted is absolutely 100% factual and accurate. I understand how liberals like you hate data the refutes your feelings. Why don't you interpret the data for me then and then which number is false?

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
 
poweRob said:
I actually appreciate you taking the effort to say something nice about someone else for a change, even though it is sarcastic, rather than trolling them and belittling people you don't know. It is noted and appreciated.
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There are a few people here that I respect a lot and have told them so. I don't respect liberals who call data false and then fail to prove it. You haven't proven any of my data false thus debunked nothing
 
Conservative said:
So you say, yet the data posted is absolutely 100% factual and accurate. I understand how liberals like you hate data the refutes your feelings. Why don't you interpret the data for me then and then which number is false?

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
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Nahhh. your lies have been debunked.

Not just ONCE...

But TWICE...

by two different people.
 
Conservative said:
There are a few people here that I respect a lot and have told them so. I don't respect liberals who call data false and then fail to prove it. You haven't proven any of my data false thus debunked nothing
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Then you must not know how to click and read.
 
Don't want this to get too glossed over...

Conservative said:
I am sure you would including WWII which helped (FDR's economy) a lot
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Interesting seeing you credit FDR's successful economy because of WWII and then at the same time not too long ago excuse GW Bush's failed economy on the fact that he had to go to war because of 9/11. A little consistency please.
 
poweRob said:
Nahhh. your lies have been debunked.

Not just ONCE...

But TWICE...

by two different people.
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Guess you don't understand the concept of proving my numbers wrong. Nothing you have posted have done that. Could it be that you don't understand the numbers? When you post GDP growth how does that change the fact that the first two qtrs of 2011(Oct-Dec 10, Jan-Mar-11) were .4% and 1.3%?

How does your private sector job growth change the fact that there has been a 2.6 million net job loss through Sept. 2011?
 
Conservative said:
Guess you don't understand the concept of proving my numbers wrong. Nothing you have posted have done that. Could it be that you don't understand the numbers? When you post GDP growth how does that change the fact that the first two qtrs of 2011(Oct-Dec 10, Jan-Mar-11) were .4% and 1.3%?

How does your private sector job growth change the fact that there has been a 2.6 million net job loss through Sept. 2011?
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This is going to be a shocker to you but I never said it didn't. What you are doing is ignoring that the GDP was far worse under Bush and the .4% and 1.3% is a drastic improvement over your boy Bush. Same goes for the 2.6 million net job loss. Your boy Bush was headed in the wrong direction, he goes home and all the sudden there is a drastic turn-around.

You refuse historic data because you'd rather play the blame game with no history attached. Our data is actually the same. The difference is, you show where we are at and scream... "ZOMG!!!1!1!1 It's Obama's fault." I post the same numbers but also show how where they came from and how they got there and you don't like that one bit, because it blows your blame game out of the water.

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IN conclusion, you are lying by blaming Obama and ignoring history and the BLS records and I'm being honest by showing you the record.
 
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poweRob said:
This is going to be a shocker to you but I never said it didn't. What you are doing is ignoring that the GDP was far worse under Bush and the .4% and 1.3% is a drastic improvement over your boy Bush. Same goes for the 2.6 million net job loss. Your boy Bush was headed in the wrong direction, he goes home and all the sudden there is a drastic turn-around.

You refuse historic data because you'd rather play the blame game with no history attached. Our data is actually the same. The difference is, you show where we are at and scream... "ZOMG!!!1!1!1 It's Obama's fault." I post the same numbers but also show how where they came from and how they got there and you don't like that one bit, because it blows your blame game out of the water.

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Then I guess you don't know the definition of debunking. "My" boy Bush isn't on the ballot and Obama was hired to fix the problem and as the numbers show he hasn't done that at a cost of 4.2 trillion to the debt. This thread is about Obama, not Bush. Historical data posted is 2011 compared to 2009 data which Obama inherited. Obama's economic policy was passed in February 2009 and he said it was for shovel ready jobs and could be spent immediately. 2 3/4 years later the numbers posted are as I stated.
 
Dickieboy said:
I see now. Whyso used your post as a crutch to validate his claim. He then made up the rest to 'make a point'. In review it looks like his point was 'your dumb...I can be dumb too'.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Don't sweat it man. I've done the same a thousand times.
 
Conservative said:
Then I guess you don't know the definition of debunking. "My" boy Bush isn't on the ballot and Obama was hired to fix the problem and as the numbers show he hasn't done that at a cost of 4.2 trillion to the debt. This thread is about Obama, not Bush. Historical data posted is 2011 compared to 2009 data which Obama inherited. Obama's economic policy was passed in February 2009 and he said it was for shovel ready jobs and could be spent immediately. 2 3/4 years later the numbers posted are as I stated.
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Doesn't matter if your boy Bush is on the ballot or not. I'm referencing what was that is effecting what is. You dodge by playing the "next election" card. I'm talking about what is and why it is. You Obama derangement syndrome is the worst derangement syndrome of anyone I've ever seen.

btw... people know when they are facing a deceiver/liar in a forum when they cannot debate one thing at a time and would rather cut & paste a shotgun style source of crap because they are too afraid to pick a topic and discuss it. It is a scatter effect that screams, "I cannot back up my claims so I will flood you with a bunch of crap and tell you to debunk it."

Pick one... stick to it... and you will have your derangement syndrome destroyed.
 
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poweRob said:
This is going to be a shocker to you but I never said it didn't. What you are doing is ignoring that the GDP was far worse under Bush and the .4% and 1.3% is a drastic improvement over your boy Bush. Same goes for the 2.6 million net job loss. Your boy Bush was headed in the wrong direction, he goes home and all the sudden there is a drastic turn-around.

You refuse historic data because you'd rather play the blame game with no history attached. Our data is actually the same. The difference is, you show where we are at and scream... "ZOMG!!!1!1!1 It's Obama's fault." I post the same numbers but also show how where they came from and how they got there and you don't like that one bit, because it blows your blame game out of the water.

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IN conclusion, you are lying by blaming Obama and ignoring history and the BLS records and I'm being honest by showing you the record.
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By the way, here is the reason I posted the first and second qtr 2011 as I was comparing it to the 2010 numbers showing that every month in 2010 the GDP dropped and in 2011 it is under 2%. that is hardly a success

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
2010 2011
I II III IV I II
3.9 3.8 2.5 2.3 0.4 1.3

25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
 
Conservative said:
By the way, here is the reason I posted the first and second qtr 2011 as I was comparing it to the 2010 numbers showing that every month in 2010 the GDP dropped and in 2011 it is under 2%. that is hardly a success
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Compared to your boy Bush's exit stage right it is. It is a massive success.

Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
2010 2011
I II III IV I II
3.9 3.8 2.5 2.3 0.4 1.3

25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
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Your cut & paste lies debunked here:
 
poweRob said:
Doesn't matter if your boy Bush is on the ballot or not. I'm referencing what was that is effecting what is. You dodge by playing the "next election" card. I'm talking about what is and why it is. You Obama derangement syndrome is the worst derangement syndrome of anyone I've ever seen.
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Imagine that, talking about Obama on a thread about Obama and pointing out the failure of him to create jobs as he promised he would do. How can you talk about what it is when you ignore what it is. The results speak for themselves. On your job if you spent as much money as he has can generated the results he has three years later you would be fired.

And as a former military person and someone who has spent 35 years in the business world I am totally shocked if you believe Obama has any leadership skills at all. The Marines I know including a Nephew out of Camp Pendleton who served in Iraq understand leadership. I would have thought you would too
 
Thank you mod for getting rid of step 5 in this thread :). /thumbsup
 
poweRob said:
Compared to your boy Bush's exit stage right it is. It is a massive success.



Your cut & paste lies debunked here:
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de·bunk (d-bngk)
tr.v. de·bunked, de·bunk·ing, de·bunks
To expose or ridicule the falseness, sham, or exaggerated claims

There is nothing false in the numbers posted

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
2010 2011
I II III IV I II
3.9 3.8 2.5 2.3 0.4 1.3

25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
 
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