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Trends mean nothing to you because Bush destroyed the private sector jobs market and Obama's record is fixing it. That is the only reason trends mean nothing to you. Because then you can't blame Obama with your Obama Derangement Syndrome.
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Lets make it even more legible...
Source BLS.gov of course...
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This is why you don't like to consider trends.
And this is why you don't like actual results
Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
In October when it began to look as if the Marxist would be elected businesses fired non-essential people. Of the 700,000 who lost their jobs, 100,000 may have lost them because he was elected. Then, in Dec, 2008, Jan, Feb and March the number stayed above 700,000 losses per month. The graph ends in April 2011. It is now October of 2011. What does it look like with the additional nearly two years of data?Lets make it even more legible...
Source BLS.gov of course...
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This is why you don't like to consider trends.
I hope you realize that in the 4 years Jimmy Carter was in office, there were more than 3 times the amount of jobs created than in the 8 years President Bush was in office, with a smaller population: :mrgreen:And Democrats have found their Jimmy Carter. No reason to vote for Obama as his record will be on the ballot in Nov. 2012 and unemployment will be the issue. You have offered no reason to vote for Obama nor have you refuted the record. That speaks volumes.
And this utter thrashing you received for cutting a pasting lies is why you don't like the truth.
I hope you realize that in the 4 years Jimmy Carter was in office, there were more than 3 times the amount of jobs created than in the 8 years President Bush was in office, with a smaller population: :mrgreen:
Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ
In October when it began to look as if the Marxist would be elected businesses fired non-essential people. Of the 700,000 who lost their jobs, 100,000 may have lost them because he was elected. Then, in Dec, 2008, Jan, Feb and March the number stayed above 700,000 losses per month. The graph ends in April 2011. It is now October of 2011. What does it look like with the additional nearly two years of data?
What is the cumulative job loss, say from Dec 07 to the present? Do we have a net gain in jobs, or a net loss of jobs? We know the answer is a net loss of jobs. How many of the nearly 3 million net loss can be attributed to the numbers between Dec 07 and Dec 08, when President Bush was still in office? Was it about 2 million (just from eyeballing the graph)? How many jobs do we need for the private sector to create to have full employment? Why won't the private sector create those jobs?
You're wasting your time on him. Most of the people who have turned Conservative into processed meat have given up on him. We all know he's wrong. We all know he cannot read data properly. We all know he will never admit he's wrong on anything.
You'd have better chances trying to convince a diehard creationist of evolution then you will of convincing Conservative of anything he doesn't currently accept. Put him on your figurative ignore list and move on.
Conservative could not figure out that BLS data was cumulative. Even when the columns were "Total US working population." It's that sad.
Love it, instead of addressing the actual data I have become the issue with liberals. OC, noticed that you ignored the actual Obama results but instead prefer to make me the issue. That is the sign of desparation and attempts at politics of personal destruction. Try as you might the facts remain, the Obama record is there for all to see and are as I have posted probably hunders of times now. You can continue to personally attack me but that doesn't change the Obama record.
I have asked that the data be proven wrong and no one has done that. Why don't you try? What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty? Keep attacking me personally while ignoring the Obama results. Diversion is the greatest form of flattery. No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history.
Nah, Carter still holds the title, if for nothing else at least Obama succeeded in being in the office when our military led a successful mission to kill OBL, while Carter's hapless ass saw the military at the time fail to free the hostages.
Pure luck mind you, but still these things do stick.
j-mac
Good point, in looking at the polls no other President had poll numbers this low other than Carter so Obama still does beat Carter in the polls at this time in his Presidency. The problem continues to be that Obama supporters will do anything and everything to divert from his record including personal attacks. Results don't matter to leftwing ideologues whose ideology trump results. We give these leftwing zealots way too much credit for having the same values as we have because they don't. Many are simply brainwashed and being manipulated by others with a leftwing agenda and that has put us on a downward spiral.
Lets make it even more legible...
Source BLS.gov of course...
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This is why you don't like to consider trends.
Lets make it even more legible...
This is why you don't like to consider trends.
Let's do consider trends. Again from your source BLS.gov
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Note the declining trend as Bush entered office...Now who was pres prior???...Now notice the trend throughout his presidency until the Democrats gained the House majority. It would appear Bush turned the trend around just as you say (correctly) that Obama has. Now notice the difference between the peak during the Bush years and the 'peak' so far during the Obama administration. Appears to be a DRASTIC difference. BHO may yet achieve the Bush level of employment but he has a LONG way to go.
Are THESE the kinda "trends we don't want to consider"?
Let's do consider trends. Again from your source BLS.gov
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Note the declining trend as Bush entered office...Now who was pres prior???...Now notice the trend throughout his presidency until the Democrats gained the House majority. It would appear Bush turned the trend around just as you say (correctly) that Obama has. Now notice the difference between the peak during the Bush years and the 'peak' so far during the Obama administration. Appears to be a DRASTIC difference. BHO may yet achieve the Bush level of employment but he has a LONG way to go.
Are THESE the kinda "trends we don't want to consider"?
Americans Favor Jobs Plan Proposals, Including Taxing Rich
Majority say Obama's jobs plan will help economy at least "a little"
"This is the second Gallup survey conducted in the last two weeks showing that the American public broadly supports Obama's jobs plan. A majority of Americans interviewed this past weekend believe the plan would help at least a little to create jobs and improve the economy.
Many of the proposals embedded in the plan receive majority support, and Americans strongly endorse the idea of paying for the plan by raising taxes on higher-income individual taxpayers and by eliminating tax deductions for some corporations. While Republicans are considerably less positive about the potential efficacy of the plan than are Democrats, a majority of the former favor a number of Obama's proposals, and also favor eliminating tax deductions for corporations to help fund the plan."
12 REASONS TO VOTE DEMOCRAT
When your family or friends cannot explain why they voted Democrat, give
Them this list. Then they can then pick a reason from this "TOP 12"..
1. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.
2. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
3. I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
4. I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.
5. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
6. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
7. I voted Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits, and we should take away the social security from those who paid into it.
8. I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.
9. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.
10.. I voted Democrat because I think that it's better to pay billions to people who hate us for their oil, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle, gopher or fish.
11. I voted Democrat because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, I was promised "HOPE AND CHANGE".
12. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my ass, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.
Sounds exactly like the people who vote Democratic
1. I voted Republican because I believe that oil companies can never make enough profits, even when the rest of the economy is taking hits left and right.
2. I voted Republican because rather than give my money to the government— with its checks, balances, and elections—I prefer to give my money to corporations, whose primary goal is to make money and whose leaders are accountable only to themselves.
3. I voted Republican because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as it’s promulgated by conservative Christians.
4. I voted Republican because it’s perfectly acceptable for any yokel to purchase a repeating rifle at a gun show and wield it in parks, malls, and schools.
5. I voted Republican because it’s more important for corporations to have the right to send pollutants into the air and water than to heed the warnings of virtually every reputable climatologist in the world about environmental threats.
6. I voted Republican because government should stay out of our lives except when it comes to telling women what to do with their own bodies or telling gay people whom they can and cannot marry or telling anyone whether and how to pray.
7. I voted Republican because children of illegal immigrants, who had no say in their parents’ decision to come to the U.S., should be deprived of health care, education, and Social Security benefits, no matter how needy they are or how much they’ve contributed to their country.
8. I voted Republican because businesses shouldn’t feel compelled to give anything back to the government that gave them all kinds of tax breaks and subsidies.
9. I voted Republican because I believe conservative judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days so that, for example, corporations can gain status as individuals.
10. I voted Republican because I think it’s better to rely on resources that contribute to war, dictatorships, and environmental catastrophe than to expend the capital to develop safer sources of energy.
11. I voted Republican because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, I long to return to the Bush years when we failed to prevent an attack by terrorists, spent billions of dollars and thousands of lives on unprovoked wars, suppressed scientific studies that contradicted administration policy, routinely tortured prisoners, lied to Congress and the people, fostered an oppressive surveillance network on our own citizens, presided over a widening gulf between the rich and the poor, oversaw our economy making the transition from surplus to huge deficit, mismanaged immigration policy, appointed reactionary judges to the U.S. Supreme Court, condoned all sorts of administrative malfeasance, gave Federal money to churches and religious organizations, neglected areas of the country hit by natural disasters, and encouraged political discourse that sought the lowest possible level of an intellectual exchange of ideas.
12. I voted Republican because I favor greed, religious fervor, and simplistic thinking over kindness, rationality, and critical analysis.
vTwo can play as that game, dumba**
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No question about it, that is why I vote Republican and have for the past 30 years, prior to that I was a conservative Democrat but that party died a long time ago. Love how in the liberal world it is the govt. that gives things to people instead of the people giving their money to the govt. I remember the day that it was a govt. of the people, by the people, and for the people. Govt. allowing people to keep more of their money is the problem that people support.
Well ah... hate to be a bum but Tax Rates are the lowest they've been in the last 30 years...
Rates are irrelevant, revenue is among the highest it has ever been.
Govt. allowing people to keep more of their money
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No question about it, that is why I vote Republican and have for the past 30 years, prior to that I was a conservative Democrat but that party died a long time ago. Love how in the liberal world it is the govt. that gives things to people instead of the people giving their money to the govt. I remember the day that it was a govt. of the people, by the people, and for the people. Govt. allowing people to keep more of their money is the problem that people like support. You don't seem to understand it isn't the government's money