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Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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What my post is suggesting is that you go back and respond to this post:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-...n-obama-grows-strongly-59.html#post1059891740

How many times do I have to respond to your post? The post shows private sector job growth but not the net private sector job growth. Private sector is always going to hire but when those leaving are more than those being hired the net is a loss. Do you know the difference between net and gross?

Obama took office with 142.2 million working Americans. As you can see from bls.gov that number in September 2011 was 139.6 million or 2.6 million less so please show me how there was a net job growth?

GDP growth in 2011 is terrible and every qtr in 2010 the GDP dropped. That is terrible performance coming out of a recession as deep as the one we were in but you miss that reality. 2010 the GDP growth was

3.9
3.8
2.5
2.3

Notice a trend here?

Then 2011

.4
1.3

Those numbers are terrible and show the affects of the Obama economic policy, a policy that you seem to think is a good one

So based upon that what more do you want me to say and prove wrong?
 
Your response is ridiculous and serves no purpose. Refute the numbers, your sig doesn't do that.
why do you run from it like it is the plague? perhaps because it blows your entire argument out of the water? keep running from it
 
why do you run from it like it is the plague? perhaps because it blows your entire argument out of the water? keep running from it

Post 1128 refutes it but I guess you are allergic to data as are most union employees
 
Post 1128 refutes it but I guess you are allergic to data as are most union employees
what i'm allergic to is the constant line of bs you keep spewing, and your refusal to address questions and points put to you...


1) Cut
2) Paste
3) Get Debunked
4) Ssssspppppiiiiiiinnnnnnn!
5) Make personal insult


ah yes, good ol' number five....you are so damn predictable
 
Obama economic results in 2011,

.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
2009 2010 2011
I II III IV I II III IV I II
-6.7 -0.7 1.7 3.8 3.9 3.8 2.5 2.3 0.4 1.3

25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)

2009 154185 154424 154100 154453 154805 154754 154457 154362 153940 154022 153795 153172
2010 153353 153558 153895 154520 154237 153684 153628 154117 154124 153960 153950 153690
2011 153186 153246 153406 153421 153693 153421 153228 153594 154017

16.5% X 154.0=25.4 million

2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov) Employment by month

2008 146421
2009 142221
2010 138333
2011 139323 139573 139864 139674 139779 139334 139296 139627

142.2-139.6=2.6 million

4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)

Debt 14.8 trillion debt today-10.6 trillion end of fiscal year 2008

Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)

Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)

38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup
Is this yet another format for the same crap you've posted for over a year now?

Forget it, Barack will beat Willard should he get nominated.
 
Sorry, but the huge deficit was created by the previous administration from over-spending on two wars (one completely elective) financed by cutting taxes (never before have taxes been cut during wartime) and then presiding over the commencement of the worst economic downturn since 1929. You can blame Obama for his failure to fix the problem, but most of the world still see this as Bush's mess.

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Would you explain your chart with all of the pretty colors, please?
The one term Marxist president Obama was elected in November 2008. A democrat Congress passed the FY 2009 budget. So why does this chart blame Bush for a decade's worth of spending beginning after he has already left office? And when should the bush legacy become the Obama current mess? Ever? Twenty years from now? Never?
 
Is this yet another format for the same crap you've posted for over a year now?

Forget it, Barack will beat Willard should he get nominated.

Don't think 39% will get it done. Results don't matter to the brainwashed
 
Obama economic results in 2011,

.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
2009 2010 2011
I II III IV I II III IV I II
-6.7 -0.7 1.7 3.8 3.9 3.8 2.5 2.3 0.4 1.3

25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)

2009 154185 154424 154100 154453 154805 154754 154457 154362 153940 154022 153795 153172
2010 153353 153558 153895 154520 154237 153684 153628 154117 154124 153960 153950 153690
2011 153186 153246 153406 153421 153693 153421 153228 153594 154017

16.5% X 154.0=25.4 million

2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov) Employment by month

2008 146421
2009 142221
2010 138333
2011 139323 139573 139864 139674 139779 139334 139296 139627

142.2-139.6=2.6 million

4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)

Debt 14.8 trillion debt today-10.6 trillion end of fiscal year 2008

Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)

Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)

38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup

Conservative's cut & paste lies debunked here:
 

I put the numbers after the record and yet you still claim you haven't been debunked? Shows just how brainwashed some people are especially someone who claims they didn't vote nor support Obama. If you have a problem with the numbers take it up with the source. Those numbers are what they are compared to the half truths you posted. Get someone to help you read the numbers since obviously that is a problem for you and then have someone explain net and gross to you.
 
I put the numbers after the record and yet you still claim you haven't been debunked? Shows just how brainwashed some people are especially someone who claims they didn't vote nor support Obama. If you have a problem with the numbers take it up with the source. Those numbers are what they are compared to the half truths you posted. Get someone to help you read the numbers since obviously that is a problem for you and then have someone explain net and gross to you.

You're taking the same crap, repackaging it by putting spaces in and voila... same crap. You post same crap, I post same rebuttal.
 
You're taking the same crap, repackaging it by putting spaces in and voila... same crap. You post same crap, I post same rebuttal.

I posted a rebuttal to your out of context and not totally factual information. You of course ignored that and have yet to prove that any of the numbers I have posted are false whereas I have proven yours false. So that you don't forget, here are the actual Obama numbers, all NET numbers. Enjoy and by all means continue to ignore

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
 
I posted a rebuttal to your out of context and not totally factual information. You of course ignored that and have yet to prove that any of the numbers I have posted are false whereas I have proven yours false. So that you don't forget, here are the actual Obama numbers, all NET numbers. Enjoy and by all means continue to ignore

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

Conservative's cut & paste spam/lies debunked here:

A point by point debunking of your spammed crap using the same exact sources you used to fabricate these lies. You've yet to rebut anything but yourself.
 
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Conservative's cut & paste spam/lies debunked here:

point by point using the same exact sources you used to fabricate these lies. You've yet to rebut anything but yourself.

Don't think so, show me the private sector NET job growth

Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Original Data Value

Series Id: CES0500000001
Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector: Total private
Industry: Total private
NAICS Code: -
Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
Years: 2001 to 2011

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2001 111634 111624 111555 111227 111146 110910 110737 110544 110276 109918 109575 109368
2002 109214 109054 108989 108892 108814 108824 108732 108671 108659 108772 108758 108595
2003 108640 108484 108286 108252 108274 108233 108231 108266 108421 108570 108611 108724
2004 108882 108913 109213 109437 109747 109841 109883 109984 110135 110465 110493 110624
2005 110718 110949 111095 111441 111583 111847 112122 112311 112392 112492 112796 112934
2006 113247 113533 113795 113961 113965 114049 114200 114347 114432 114438 114628 114803
2007 114993 115051 115251 115308 115419 115469 115486 115391 115396 115470 115568 115606
2008 115610 115482 115395 115209 114969 114752 114487 114170 113736 113245 112458 111822
2009 110981 110260 109473 108700 108374 107936 107649 107434 107221 106971 106937 106835
2010 106793 106772 106916 107145 107193 107258 107351 107461 107570 107713 107841 108008
2011 108102 108363 108582 108823 108922 108997 109170 109212 109349
 
Conservative's cut & paste spam/lies debunked here:

A point by point debunking of your spammed crap using the same exact sources you used to fabricate these lies. You've yet to rebut anything but yourself.

I totally understand your position as I was in a similar position to you, young, inexperienced, naive, gullible about liberalism but grew out of it and it was a real eye opener.
 
Don't think so, show me the private sector NET job growth

Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Original Data Value

Series Id: CES0500000001
Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector: Total private
Industry: Total private
NAICS Code: -
Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
Years: 2001 to 2011

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2001 111634 111624 111555 111227 111146 110910 110737 110544 110276 109918 109575 109368
2002 109214 109054 108989 108892 108814 108824 108732 108671 108659 108772 108758 108595
2003 108640 108484 108286 108252 108274 108233 108231 108266 108421 108570 108611 108724
2004 108882 108913 109213 109437 109747 109841 109883 109984 110135 110465 110493 110624
2005 110718 110949 111095 111441 111583 111847 112122 112311 112392 112492 112796 112934
2006 113247 113533 113795 113961 113965 114049 114200 114347 114432 114438 114628 114803
2007 114993 115051 115251 115308 115419 115469 115486 115391 115396 115470 115568 115606
2008 115610 115482 115395 115209 114969 114752 114487 114170 113736 113245 112458 111822
2009 110981 110260 109473 108700 108374 107936 107649 107434 107221 106971 106937 106835
2010 106793 106772 106916 107145 107193 107258 107351 107461 107570 107713 107841 108008
2011 108102 108363 108582 108823 108922 108997 109170 109212 109349


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More and more of you just cutting and pasting the same lies from thread to thread. My my these mods in this forum are awfully tolerant for a spammer like you to still be here.
 
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I totally understand your position as I was in a similar position to you, young, inexperienced, naive, gullible about liberalism but grew out of it and it was a real eye opener.

Conservative Tactic #1
spam

When that fails...

Conservative Tactic #2
Personal insults

bwahahahahahahah
 
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More and more of you just cutting and pasting the same lies from thread to thread. My my these mods in this forum are awfully tolerant for a spammer like you to still be here.

I have a great solution for you never count the jobs lost and you will always show a net job gain. Just like your gross pay vs. your net pay when you actually get a job. The private sector as I showed is less today than it was in 2009 so where is that net job gain. You really need to learn how to research the charts that you post and find out what the data includes and excludes.
 
I have a great solution for you never count the jobs lost and you will always show a net job gain. Just like your gross pay vs. your net pay when you actually get a job. The private sector as I showed is less today than it was in 2009 so where is that net job gain. You really need to learn how to research the charts that you post and find out what the data includes and excludes.

Just like in the other thread, you are counting cummulative and ignoring the positive trends because it completely trashes your point. Poor thing.
 
Just like in the other thread, you are counting cummulative and ignoring the positive trends because it completely trashes your point. Poor thing.

Trends mean nothing when there are 2.6 million fewer people employed today and more people dropping out of the labor force thus not being counted. You don't have a clue how unemployment is calculated and what makes up those numbers. So instead of doing some research you ignore the actual net data from BLS and all that is doing is making you look foolish.
 
Trends mean nothing when there are 2.6 million fewer people employed today and more people dropping out of the labor force thus not being counted. You don't have a clue how unemployment is calculated and what makes up those numbers. So instead of doing some research you ignore the actual net data from BLS and all that is doing is making you look foolish.

Trends mean nothing to you because Bush destroyed the private sector jobs market and Obama's record is fixing it. That is the only reason trends mean nothing to you. Because then you can't blame Obama with your Obama Derangement Syndrome.

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