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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am not sure that is 100% correct either, but ok, it was at the least bi partisan, so to use it as a talking point sledge hammer against republicans is about as dishonest as one can get I think.


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    No. NCLB is nearly an exact model of the texas program. That is a fact.

    And that NCLB is the centerpiece of their Texas Republican President's domestic policy?
    And that its implementation was orchestrated by loyal Texas GOP'ers in Rod Paige and Margaret Spellings (who, by the way, some have rumored might run for office upon her return to Texas)?
    And that NCLB was modeled after the Texas accountability system which was designed by Texans (Sandy Kress)? Question: Given that, why doesn't the GOP also call for abolishing the state accountability system?

    Who thinks NCLB stinks? Texas Republicans, that's who. | Dallas ISD Blog | dallasnews.com

    the No Child Left Behind law, which was largely modeled after Texas’s high-stakes testing program

    Texas Superintendents Reject High-Stakes Testing, Propose New Vision | FairTest

    . . . the goal of the No Child Left Behind Act that President Bush modeled after his program in Texas

    ESR | March 7, 2005 | No Child Left Behind Act: An intrusion on state's rights?

    I don't blame the other republicans for this any more than Kennedy. This came from bush, his program, his ed sec. I laugh at how you guys try to remove all responsibility from him for all his programs. i guess Bush never really did anything at all.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    But you yourself stated 'NCLB (a federal funding program) has failed'. So how are you defining 'quality education'?
    I think quality of education has to do with a lot of things. I think that the best way to find how well we are doing is to compare ourselves to other nations or parts of our country to other parts of our country.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    WTF difference does who wrote NCLB make? The point is NCLB has failed and was a reauthorization of ESEA which by association has failed except in the case of reallocating scarce resources.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    WTF difference does who wrote NCLB make? The point is NCLB has failed and was a reauthorization of ESEA which by association has failed except in the case of reallocating scarce resources.
    Difference? It's about personal responsibility. Anyone who coould read should have known it would fail. It was truely that illogical an idea.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Strawman

    Do you not understand that if there are more poor people there is less tax revenue in an area?
    Do you not understand that if there are more poor people then government should reduce the barriers to business so good jobs will be created.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Do you not understand that the rich provide majority of the social services, which they deserve to pay.
    This makes no sense as written.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    So, if you have a bunch of poor people paying a low amount of money, how do you propose the children get an education?
    See above. Get the liberals out of the system. Reduce barriers to business. Bring more businesses in and solve the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Again, the only way for these low income states to have proper schools is a federal tax.
    Not under the United States Constitution. Local schools are local issues. I pay taxes in my county to support schools in my county. You do the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    You don't want to admit this because that would mean we NEED a federal income tax.
    We do need a means to raise money for Constitutional requirements. Local education is not one of them.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Background & Analysis | Federal Education Budget Project

    An interesting pie chart here, more than 50% of federal budget is spent on defense.
    Cute. 50% of 34% of the budget was spent on defense.
    Two-thirds goes to Social Security and Medicare.

    So curse FDR every time you see those numbers. He put us on this road to slavery with the state as master.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you not understand that if there are more poor people then government should reduce the barriers to business so good jobs will be created.


    This makes no sense as written.


    See above. Get the liberals out of the system. Reduce barriers to business. Bring more businesses in and solve the problem.


    Not under the United States Constitution. Local schools are local issues. I pay taxes in my county to support schools in my county. You do the same.


    We do need a means to raise money for Constitutional requirements. Local education is not one of them.
    It is hard to argue against one who won't argue...

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    It is hard to argue against one who won't argue...
    Or maybe it is that you are too inexperienced to understand the points.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My mistake, you said that only 20% of the country was liberal, yet a Democrat who campaigned on progressive positions won the election.
    LOL ..... the Democrat nominee would have had to have been brain-dead to not win in 2008.

    What is to be noted with utmost prejudice is that the uber-liberal Obama has failed massively at everything, except continuing the war on terrorism, as structured by Bush btw. On all things domestic, and most especially everything economy, Obama is a mega disaster. After winning that November 2008 poll, he is getting his ass kicked in all the ones that are based on how he has actually performed since. And that ass-whuppin ain't over.

    Do you not yet see what a complete asshat cluster**** that ditz is ?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Or maybe it is that you are too inexperienced to understand the points.
    Nope, you just strawmanned every single one of my points.

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