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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Why am I finding myself linking you to my previous post you just responded too?
    Because you obviously didn’t read or understand YOUR previous post. You stated that ‘this explicitly says why we should’. The article you posted stated ‘there is also a compelling national interest’. What was included in the article that was ‘explicit’? Because of an opinion of compelling interest? Because at some point in our past our illustrious government decided to TAKE OVER a portion of the education system in this country doesn’t mean that we AGREE NOW. Further it may have SEEMED like a good idea then but the statistics do not support the success of said program over 45 years. Does it seem intelligent to continue the experiment?

    There was ‘compelling national interest’ for prohibition but we QUICKLY found out how that was wrong. Again, another example of our illustrious government at work. Unfortunately, ADULTS were the ones that were prohibited and were of age to make the case for repeal. Children unfortunately are unable to make changes to the current system and rely on adults to make the system better. So far it seems to have not worked out for them too well.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Why am I finding myself linking you to my previous post you just responded too?


    ESEA authorizes grants for elementary and secondary school programs for children of low-income families; school library resources, textbooks and other instructional materials; supplemental education centers and services; strengthening state education agencies; education research; and professional development for teachers.
    Why do you believe a bureaucrat in D.C. is more familar with the needs of a local school district than the District itself? If the local school district doesn't have the money it can go to two sources, the local community or the state. That is a state responsibility. You do understand responsibility, don't you?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Because you obviously didn’t read or understand YOUR previous post. You stated that ‘this explicitly says why we should’. The article you posted stated ‘there is also a compelling national interest’. What was included in the article that was ‘explicit’? Because of an opinion of compelling interest? Because at some point in our past our illustrious government decided to TAKE OVER a portion of the education system in this country doesn’t mean that we AGREE NOW. Further it may have SEEMED like a good idea then but the statistics do not support the success of said program over 45 years. Does it seem intelligent to continue the experiment?
    I love this line of thinking that being the US should never change and we should just hit the reset button. Unless, that is, it falls into the conservative line of thinking.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you believe a bureaucrat in D.C. is more familar with the needs of a local school district than the District itself? If the local school district doesn't have the money it can go to two sources, the local community or the state. That is a state responsibility. You do understand responsibility, don't you?
    Go to the community meaning we should not have public education it should be private education?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Go to the community meaning we should not have public education it should be private education?
    You really don't understand how schools are funded, do you? Public education is funded by the local public, not the national taxpayers.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You really don't understand how schools are funded, do you? Public education is funded by the local public, not the national taxpayers.
    Yes but so we don't have half of our states under funded and half of our states over funded, we redistribute accross the state to bring our education standards up...

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Yes but so we don't have half of our states under funded and half of our states over funded, we redistribute accross the state to bring our education standards up...
    When you are underfunded what do you do? States that are underfunded need to cut spending or you go to the taxpayers of the state and ask for more. That isn't the role of the Federal Govt.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I love this line of thinking that being the US should never change and we should just hit the reset button. Unless, that is, it falls into the conservative line of thinking.
    Huh? Ambigious. ESEA was original passed to run until 1970. It has been reauthorized every 5 years by BOTH parties since. NCLB is the most recent reauthorization of the Act and was passed in 2001 with a Republican (Conservative) WH and Congress. So, yes we HAVE been 'just hitting the reset button' every since. But of course you knew that being a educator and such.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When you are underfunded what do you do? States that are underfunded need to cut spending or you go to the taxpayers of the state and ask for more. That isn't the role of the Federal Govt.
    This is where you are failing to see the big picture. If a state is demographically poor how can they go to them for more money? THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BEGIN WITH. Look at Cleveland/Detroit, do you expect them to have a functioning school system without federal assistance?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Huh? Ambigious. ESEA was original passed to run until 1970. It has been reauthorized every 5 years by BOTH parties since. NCLB is the most recent reauthorization of the Act and was passed in 2001 with a Republican (Conservative) WH and Congress. So, yes we HAVE been 'just hitting the reset button' every since. But of course you knew that being a educator and such.
    If you are resigning legislation into effect every year then you are not hitting the reset button. The reset button would take us back to the founding fathers laws.

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