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Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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No, you don't say. :roll:

Again, Democrats had the4 votes to pass the bill had Republicans not filibustered it.

Again, according to the article that is anything but clear.

Democratic support for the bill wavered this week, as several Democrats said they would vote for moving the bill forward, but against the bill itself.
 
I don't know what you're reading ... what I'm reading says nearly 2/3rds of those polled wanted the bill to pass.

What I'm reading is that you wish to spin things. When the poll asked about individual portions people supported those things. WHen asked about the bill in general, like most people, they had no idea what was actually in it so they couldn't say.

But the numbers for the bill only spike when Americans learn about its provisions in some detail. When NBC pollsters asked for a simple up-or-down appraisal of the bill, minus any policy details, the same group of respondents expressed less than half the level of support that they later showed. "When asked simply if Congress should pass the legislation or not, 30 percent of respondents answer yes, while 22 percent say no; 44 percent have no opinion," according to NBC.

Some detail..........What details? Anything about none of the tax increases going to the deficit? About how it would further harm S.S.?

Imagine this.

But when the legislation's details are included in a follow-up question -- that it would cut payroll taxes, fund new road construction, extend unemployment benefits, and that it would be paid for by increasing taxes on the wealthy -- 63 percent say they favor the bill and 32 percent oppose it.

They tell them about what they see as a positive and people are for it. Never mind that was only part of the bill. Why the deceit to make a point if it was so popular?
 
Hard to believe we have an entire political party that is willing to put the welfare of America at risk just so they can return to power. The entire Republican party should be rounded up and shot as traitors.

Seek out professional mental counseling before it's too late.
 
The vast majority of the people supporting the bill do so solely because of the name not it's content, not unlike the Patriot Act.
 
Again, according to the article that is anything but clear.

Democratic support for the bill wavered this week, as several Democrats said they would vote for moving the bill forward, but against the bill itself.
From what I can tell, that was first reported by the BBC, which made the claim without naming a single Senator who said that -- and then the BCC pulled that part out of their article just 2 hours after they first released it.

'Republicans block Obama jobs bill' diff viewer (2/3) - News Sniffer
 
Uh, yeah ... I don't think so ...


Americans, unlike the Senate, approve of Obama’s jobs bill, poll says

Nearly two-thirds of the respondents to a survey from NBC/Wall Street Journal voiced their approval when pollsters were told them the details of the president's "American Jobs Act"-- including that it would cut payroll taxes, fund new road construction, and extend unemployment benefits. NBC reports that 63 percent of respondents said they favored the bill, with just 32 percent opposing it.​


... anything else you wanna make up?
Either the Republicans pass or it becomes a campaign issue. The President is playing hardball.
 
I'm sorry, I didn't hear the constructive ideas from the loyal opposition. Is that because they have no ideas, nor are the particularly loyal to America either? Hard to believe we have an entire political party that is willing to put the welfare of America at risk just so they can return to power. The entire Republican party should be rounded up and shot as traitors.

I have a feeling you wouldn't like the results if we turned our political disputes into a gun battle. this country would have been off if FDR had been executed as a traitor in 1933 though
 
Seek out professional mental counseling before it's too late.

I was sort of hoping he'd try to round up those republicans. The secret service would cure his problems permanently I suspect
 
What I'm reading is that you wish to spin things. When the poll asked about individual portions people supported those things. WHen asked about the bill in general, like most people, they had no idea what was actually in it so they couldn't say.

But the numbers for the bill only spike when Americans learn about its provisions in some detail. When NBC pollsters asked for a simple up-or-down appraisal of the bill, minus any policy details, the same group of respondents expressed less than half the level of support that they later showed. "When asked simply if Congress should pass the legislation or not, 30 percent of respondents answer yes, while 22 percent say no; 44 percent have no opinion," according to NBC.

Some detail..........What details? Anything about none of the tax increases going to the deficit? About how it would further harm S.S.?

Imagine this.

But when the legislation's details are included in a follow-up question -- that it would cut payroll taxes, fund new road construction, extend unemployment benefits, and that it would be paid for by increasing taxes on the wealthy -- 63 percent say they favor the bill and 32 percent oppose it.

They tell them about what they see as a positive and people are for it. Never mind that was only part of the bill. Why the deceit to make a point if it was so popular?
When informed what's in the bill, 63% were for it.

What were they told was in it?

  • it would cut payroll taxes
  • it would fund new road construction
  • it would extend unemployment benefits
  • it would be paid for by increasing taxes on the wealthy
 
Means nothing. It's right in the article posted here. As noted over and over, not a single Senator (other than the twisted armed Reid) signed on to it.
The BBC retracted that part of the story. You can't even find it in their current version. The BBC no longer supports that even though you cling to it.
 
Either the Republicans pass or it becomes a campaign issue. The President is playing hardball.

Let's see how this plays out....

Obama: The Republicans blocked my bill that would have fed the world and cured cancer.

GOP candidate: Many Dems in the Senate said that there is no way they would have voted to pass it. Very similiar to your budget that was voted down 0-98.
 
The BBC retracted that part of the story. You can't even find it in their current version. The BBC no longer supports that even though you cling to it.

But yet you can find it in this article. Something that you say can't even be found now takes precedent over something right in the article posted here? LOL
 
Did 100% of the Dems vote for it? How supportive was Reid? The Dems know this is a POS because it raises taxes and some of these Dems Senators are up for reelection.

About 95% of the Dems voted for it. Are you trying to say that there is no support for a measure unless the vote is unanimous? :lol:
 
An implicit promise was made every time BO mentioned that projection in a speech as the justification to pass the Porkulus I bill. I could do a Lexis/Nexis search to find those quotes but lack the desire to spend an additional minute of time on this matter.

Oh, it was "an implicit promise"!! :2rofll:
 
Originally Posted by Turtledud:
I ave a feeling you wouldn't like the results if we turned our political disputes into a gun battle.

Dude, if there was ever anything but a target in front of you you'd soil your panties.
 
Don't know...

"The protests in Egypt consist of a very small percentage of the population. The largest protest which has taken place called for a million Egyptians to march in Cairo and around 250,000 actually participated in a country of 80 million people."
Egypt’s Crisis Emphasises Hypocrisy Of Obama And The Left | RedState

So despite your earlier claim their numbers were insufficient, it would seem that a relatively small percentage of the total population can make a big difference.

It's not the number, it's the reason... if there's a good enough reason that resonates --- the numbers will follow. So far, the numbers are not significant because there is no clear reason.

Oh, we are moving the goal away from the number to the reason now...............very well, the reason resonates among the middle class..............economic justice!
 
Let's see how this plays out....

Obama: The Republicans blocked my bill that would have fed the world and cured cancer.

GOP candidate: Many Dems in the Senate said that there is no way they would have voted to pass it. Very similiar to your budget that was voted down 0-98.
Spot the disconnect ...

1Perry: "Many Dems..."

BBC (Before retraction): "several Democrats..."
 
The vast majority of the people supporting the bill do so solely because of the name not it's content, not unlike the Patriot Act.

We'll find out if you are right or not next November! I am betting you are not right.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
The BBC retracted that part of the story. You can't even find it in their current version. The BBC no longer supports that even though you cling to it.

But yet you can find it in this article. Something that you say can't even be found now takes precedent over something right in the article posted here? LOL
Well here's their current version of that story. I don't know how you see it there, but I don't. You must be seeing things. ;)

Republicans block Obama jobs bill
 
Oh, it was "an implicit promise"!! :2rofll:
That was the part you found hysterical?? I almost busted a gut on the part where he said he could prove it but just didn't feel like it. :lamo
 
"The protests in Egypt consist of a very small percentage of the population. The largest protest which has taken place called for a million Egyptians to march in Cairo and around 250,000 actually participated in a country of 80 million people."
Egypt’s Crisis Emphasises Hypocrisy Of Obama And The Left | RedState

Ever been to Egypt? It's population centers are few and fair between. You don't really need to have massive protests once the secret police are gone. You take the heart of Cairo, Alexandria and a few other cities, you have Egypt. 80 million spread out in density like Wyoming is super different from density like Singapore.
 
LMFAO....only 50 lib senators voted for BO's Porkulus II

once again, the only thing Bi-Partisan about the "Post-Partisan President"s agenda is the opposition to it.
 
Originally Posted by Turtledud:

Dude, if there was ever anything but a target in front of you you'd soil your panties.

Sgt H. (i won't give his full name, no need to make trouble for him). Looks like your very ordinary, fit, male age 24-28ish. He has a natural smile, is about 5'7, probably weighs about 160ish, and a natural soft voice with a slow easy southern drawl and grin.

He is also the scariest ****ing man I have ever met in my life. Sgt H is the sole surviving member of his original squad. He has literally killed with his hands. He was shot by an AK-47.... in the face. I have seen him roll out of vehicles doing 25-30 miles an hour onto pavement, jump off second story buildings in order to correct Marines, and run every other Marine (save one, no, definitely not me) into the dirt. He was kicked out of being a teacher at the Marine Corps School of Infantry because it was felt that he was too angry and violent. In a world of high-testosterone, legitimately tough guys, everyone (to include officers) respects and gives Sgt H. space. As a boot, we all feared having to wake him up, because we knew that the mans' PTSD meant that touching him or startling him while sleeping meant he was going to spend the first second or so of waking up trying to kill you. I would sooner just go ahead and smash my face into a brick wall as ever get into a violent confrontation with that man.

And to meet him on the street, you would never, ever know it. He dotes on his toddler son and you'd probably think he was just the sweetest daddy in the whole wide world.

After I met Sgt H, I decided I would never again assume that someone I did not know was not dangerous.
 
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