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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Liberalism has created the problems we have today and you want more of it? We have a 14.8 trillion dollar debt most of it due to social spending and yet that isn't enough? What ever led you to believe that liberal social engineering has ever led to solving any social problems yet the liberal answer is tax more thus we have more money to throw at the problem.
    The BS detector just went off when you claimed that our problems today were caused by liberalism, and that most of our national debt is due to social spending. We have never had a liberal president, or Congress for that matter. We only have two liberal Congressmen, Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich Tell us how these two Congressman created our debt over the last 30 years?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The BS detector just went off when you claimed that our problems today were caused by liberalism, and that most of our national debt is due to social spending. We have never had a liberal president, or Congress for that matter. We only have two liberal Congressmen, Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich Tell us how these two Congressman created our debt over the last 30 years?
    Prove that statement wrong, Great Society and New Deal expenses contributed to most of the debt we have today. Social engineering and buying votes are what liberals do

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Fun with numbers!

    63% of voters support the American Jobs Act.

    100% of the Republicans voted against it.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Prove that statement wrong, Great Society and New Deal expenses contributed to most of the debt we have today. Social engineering and buying votes are what liberals do
    LOL! You made the claim, prove it if you can.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Fun with numbers!

    63% of voters support the American Jobs Act.

    100% of the Republicans voted against it.
    As did two Democrats and more would have had there been an up or down vote that McConnell authorized. Keep spinning and buying the lies.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Fun with numbers!

    63% of voters support the American Jobs Act.

    100% of the Republicans voted against it.
    51% of people supported Obamacare at one time too... now only 36% support it and 70% want it repealed. It's what happens when enough time passes that people find out what is really in it...
    Last edited by Ockham; 10-19-11 at 07:20 PM. Reason: added the "repealed" number
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    51% of people supported Obamacare at one time too... now only 36% support it and 70% want it repealed. It's what happens when enough time passes that people find out what is really in it...
    If you can't beat 'em, change the subject, eh Ockham?

    "It is simply not true that "the American people" want President Obama's health-care reform law repealed. House Republicans should be aware that while conservative activists may support the action they're about to take, surveys indicate that the general public clearly does not.

    A new Post poll shows that 50 percent of those surveyed oppose the "Obamacare" law, while 45 percent support it. But these numbers are misleading, since The Post reports that "a quarter of those who oppose the health-care law say the legislation is faulty because it did not go far enough, not because it pushed change too far."

    In other words, one-fourth of the law's opponents believe it should have been more ambitious and far-reaching, not less so. These are people who would have liked to see single-payer universal care, or tighter regulation of insurance companies, or less restrictive language on abortion rights -- hardly positions that John Boehner and Eric Cantor would endorse. By counting them among opponents of the law, Republicans are essentially arguing that Michael Moore is on their side.

    Subtracting these dyed-in-the-wool progressives from the "anti-" column leaves just 37.5 percent opposed to the health-care law. Putting the Moore crowd in the "pro-" column, where ideologically it belongs, means that 57.5 percent of Americans support what Republicans deride as a "big government takeover of health care."

    So the next time somebody tries to tell you how unpopular "Obamacare" is, remember one thing: It isn't."

    PostPartisan - Americans don't want health-care repeal


    Now, back to topic, how do you spin the 63% support of the American Jobs Act?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you can't beat 'em, change the subject, eh Ockham?
    No need to change the subject. By posting exactly what I did, I simply pointed out that your cherry picked % isn't a static one. Support for bills tends to go down once people realize, read or are told what is actually in the bill. Sorry you don't like that, but that's reality.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Fun with numbers!

    63% of voters support the American Jobs Act.

    100% of the Republicans voted against it.
    Actually, 63% of folks do not support the absurd JOBS bill. That was from a BS poll. America is not behind Obama on anything right now, except his exit from the WH.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No need to change the subject.
    Yet you did, and avoided the question regarding it.

    By posting exactly what I did, I simply pointed out that your cherry picked % isn't a static one. Support for bills tends to go down once people realize, read or are told what is actually in the bill. Sorry you don't like that, but that's reality.
    I must have missed this part in your post:

    "The Post reports that "a quarter of those who oppose the health-care law say the legislation is faulty because it did not go far enough, not because it pushed change too far."
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