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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    When did I ignore the facts? I didn't say Obama > Reagan. I didn't say Reagan didn't increase revenues with his tax cuts. I called him out on his blatant failure at basic math. Try again.
    Blatant? that is total bull****. Fact that govt. revenue went up after the Reagan tax cuts went into full effect. Reagan took office with a tanking economy which of course you ignored. Reagan tax cuts didn't go int effect until fiscal year 1982 which again you ignore. Not sure what your problem is but you are doing everything possible to divert from the fact that Obama would take the Reagan results today in a heartbeat but isn't smart enough to do what Reagan did. Reagan won a massive landslide in 1984, something that Obama can only dream about.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bush ran on an improving economy, check. Improving employment picture, check. rising labor force, check. Running against John Kerry, check. But what relevance does that have today?
    Odd - not until his final year did he see any job creation / growth.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Odd - not until his final year did he see any job creation / growth.

    2001 137778
    2002 135701 (-2077)
    2003 137417

    2004 138472

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    Thus the term trending upward and a net job gain but then what does Bush have to do with the election in 2012 and the Obama record?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Deficits are created between October 1 and Sept 30 of each year, debt is cumulative. Obama has added 4.2 trillion to the ebt, where is your outrage? The wars cost 1.4 trillion over 10 years or 140 a year. It is frustrating to see so many people misinformed.
    Now, this is the problem I have with people who think as you do.

    Deficit (before debt limit increase) = $14 trillion

    Obama responsible for: $4.2 trillion

    Cost of both wars responsible for: $1.2 trillion

    Total cumulative debt = $5.4 trillion

    Whose responsible for the remaining $9 trillion?

    You can try to blame a Democrat Congress (2006-2010) as you often do, but Republicans ran Congress for 10 years prior (1997-2007) and had a Republican President for 8 of those years (2000-2008), not to mention Clinton left a budget surplus when he left office in 2000. So, whose really to blame for our country's economic woes?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, this is the problem I have with people who think as you do.

    Deficit (before debt limit increase) = $14 trillion

    Obama responsible for: $4.2 trillion

    Cost of both wars responsible for: $1.2 trillion

    Total cumulative debt = $5.4 trillion

    Whose responsible for the remaining $9 trillion?

    You can try to blame a Democrat Congress (2006-2010) as you often do, but Republicans ran Congress for 10 years prior (1997-2007) and had a Republican President for 8 of those years (2000-2008), not to mention Clinton left a budget surplus when he left office in 2000. So, whose really to blame for our country's economic woes?
    /sarcasm

    I blame the letter D

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    You see dancing is a sin and dancing starts with the letter D like democrat starts with the letter D. Therefore the letter D is responsible

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, this is the problem I have with people who think as you do.

    Deficit (before debt limit increase) = $14 trillion

    Obama responsible for: $4.2 trillion

    Cost of both wars responsible for: $1.2 trillion

    Total cumulative debt = $5.4 trillion

    Whose responsible for the remaining $9 trillion?

    You can try to blame a Democrat Congress (2006-2010) as you often do, but Republicans ran Congress for 10 years prior (1997-2007) and had a Republican President for 8 of those years (2000-2008), not to mention Clinton left a budget surplus when he left office in 2000. So, whose really to blame for our country's economic woes?
    Yes, Republicans and Bush share some of the responsibility, BUT the Democrat controlled Congress from 2006 - 2010 and Obama have spent like drunken sailors.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, this is the problem I have with people who think as you do.

    Deficit (before debt limit increase) = $14 trillion

    Obama responsible for: $4.2 trillion

    Cost of both wars responsible for: $1.2 trillion

    Total cumulative debt = $5.4 trillion

    Whose responsible for the remaining $9 trillion?

    You can try to blame a Democrat Congress (2006-2010) as you often do, but Republicans ran Congress for 10 years prior (1997-2007) and had a Republican President for 8 of those years (2000-2008), not to mention Clinton left a budget surplus when he left office in 2000. So, whose really to blame for our country's economic woes?
    That might be one of the most misinformed posts that I have ever read, someone who doesn't understand debt and deficit. Obama has over 4.2 TRILLION in deficits that have been added to the debt. Not sure where you get your information but you need to get a refund if you paid for any of it. Democrats took control of the Senate the middle of 2001 but that doesn't seem to resonate with liberals.

    Debt is 14.8 trillion, not deficit as deficits are yearly and debt is cumulative.

    Obama has added 4.2 trillion to the debt in less than 3 years which were the result of the 2009-2011 spending.

    Cost of both wars 1.2 trillion over 10 years or 120 billion per year so why are you applying the total cost of the wars to the yearly budget.

    Try again?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Blatant? that is total bull****. Fact that govt. revenue went up after the Reagan tax cuts went into full effect. Reagan took office with a tanking economy which of course you ignored. Reagan tax cuts didn't go int effect until fiscal year 1982 which again you ignore. Not sure what your problem is but you are doing everything possible to divert from the fact that Obama would take the Reagan results today in a heartbeat but isn't smart enough to do what Reagan did. Reagan won a massive landslide in 1984, something that Obama can only dream about.
    Again, it's funny you bring Obama into the discussion despite me NOT trying to defend him.

    You lied and missed a basic math calculation and continue to support your disproven claim.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, this is the problem I have with people who think as you do.

    Deficit (before debt limit increase) = $14 trillion

    Obama responsible for: $4.2 trillion

    Cost of both wars responsible for: $1.2 trillion

    Total cumulative debt = $5.4 trillion

    Whose responsible for the remaining $9 trillion?

    You can try to blame a Democrat Congress (2006-2010) as you often do, but Republicans ran Congress for 10 years prior (1997-2007) and had a Republican President for 8 of those years (2000-2008), not to mention Clinton left a budget surplus when he left office in 2000. So, whose really to blame for our country's economic woes?
    You mean the cumulative debt of the US since the dawn of record keeping? I think it is you who needs to re-evaluate your way of thinking. The past debt was the past debt regardless of who is responsible. What has Obama done as such a great leader to improve the situation? The right answer is that he has not made anything better but in fact only has made things worse. This means that he is not a good leader for this country and no matter how much you want his nuts on your chin, he is not somebody we need to vote for BASED ON HIS CURRENT PERFORMANCE. You can't go back in a time machine and fix a couple hundered years of poor government choices, you can however look forward and make choices that will improve our situation. Obama has adequately shown that he cannot provide the kind of positive change he advertised that he could. Just like you liberal simpletons, blaming everyone else for your failures will not solve the problems and that is all Obama has done. I don't know if I am going to vote for a president who's campaign platform has been "Fail and Blame".

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Imagine that, inserting Obama into a thread about Obama? Wow, how dare me?

    Amazing how liberals use the word lie all the time when a blatant lie would be that govt. revenue went up when it didn't but carry on, making a fool of yourself.

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