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Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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Jryan said:
You know, if all of conservatives posts were as well thought out as zgolds last one, he would actually be fun to debate.
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Well thought out and proving that my data was correct. Guess you missed that part
 
Catawba said:
All the polls (which I have referenced) are showing a majority of Americans support the president's jobs bill. Where are the polls showing a majority support for the GOP jobs plan?
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The jobs bill is dead as is your President. Keep buying his lies and keep ignoring his record. Democrats cannot even support his program
 
Why are you guys feeding this troll? He can't read a statistic to save his life.
 
whysoserious said:
Why are you guys feeding this troll? He can't read a statistic to save his life.
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Aw, another liberal to participate in the politics of personal destruction and ignoring the data to attack the messenger. You don't like the data, vote for another President
 
Conservative said:
Aw, another liberal to participate in the politics of personal destruction and ignoring the data to attack the messenger. You don't like the data, vote for another President
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You have no message. You can't even read the data, as I've shown in the past. How are you going to talk GDP when you can't understand inflation? All you do is spam random numbers over and over again, which makes you about as useful as a forum bot.
 
whysoserious said:
You have no message. You can't even read the data, as I've shown in the past. How are you going to talk GDP when you can't understand inflation? All you do is spam random numbers over and over again, which makes you about as useful as a forum bot.
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I haven't seen anyone here read the data for me since you claim I cannot read it. Tell me where I am wrong

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

oh, by the way, what inflation? Are interest rates at record low because of high inflation?
 
Conservative said:
Incredible GDP numbers, isn't it. How does that compare to 2010? Aren't those the numbers I posted in the Obama results?
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You said GDP was .4%. GDP had increased .4% in the Q1 and 1.3% in Q2.

LOL, thanks for playing, I took the labor force X 16.5% and came up with 25.4 million. I will gladlly accept your 24.7 million which I am sure you are proud of.
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Good. With your math skills, why don't you actually use the numbers provided.


Posted it above
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Give me the link genius. I couldn't find it on BLS.

So again you stop in 2010, is there a reason for that? Keep going, the link will give you the current one which I am sure you now recognize that I was right
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Well that was the last year they posted. Provide me your link for it, or you are a liar.

Looks like you won't be disputing my data any more, thanks for posting
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You bet I will.
 
Conservative said:
I haven't seen anyone here read the data for me since you claim I cannot read it. Tell me where I am wrong

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

oh, by the way, what inflation? Are interest rates at record low because of high inflation?
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Good job, you posted a bunch of random numbers without context again! In middle school that might get you an A!
 
whysoserious said:
You have no message. You can't even read the data, as I've shown in the past. How are you going to talk GDP when you can't understand inflation? All you do is spam random numbers over and over again, which makes you about as useful as a forum bot.
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What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty even in the face of data that proves you wrong? Wow, amazing faith in a failed ideology
 
Conservative said:
What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty even in the face of data that proves you wrong? Wow, amazing faith in a failed ideology
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How did it proved him wrong? He didn't post any numbers originally so, thereby, your numbers don't "prove him wrong" on anything.
 
whysoserious said:
Good job, you posted a bunch of random numbers without context again! In middle school that might get you an A!
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No problem interpret them for me since obviously in your opinion I am doing something wrong.

Isn't the GDP growth in 2011 less than 2010 and as reported

Aren't there 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans?

Aren't there 2.6 million fewer employed today than when Obama took office?

Hasn't 4.3 trillion been added to the debt?

Wasn't our credit rating downgraded on his watch?

Isn't the misery index in September 12.97?

Isn't his approval rating between 38-41%


I would love to learn from you but so far all I am seeing are basically personal attacks.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
How did it proved him wrong? He didn't post any numbers originally so, thereby, your numbers don't "prove him wrong" on anything.
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Never said his numbers were wrong and did say to a point they were right, just not the total story. My numbers are net, his were gross. you do know the difference right? In fact I know you have researched the site and found my data as posted. Now I just need someone to interpret it for me since obviously you believe I am wrong.
 
 
Conservative said:
No problem interpret them for me since obviously in your opinion I am doing something wrong.

Isn't the GDP growth in 2011 less than 2010 and as reported

Aren't there 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans?

Aren't there 2.6 million fewer employed today than when Obama took office?

Hasn't 4.3 trillion been added to the debt?

Wasn't our credit rating downgraded on his watch?

Isn't the misery index in September 12.97?

Isn't his approval rating between 38-41%


I would love to learn from you but so far all I am seeing are basically personal attacks.
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Do you really think that writing them in a sentence provides context? You're funny, lol.
 
Catawba said:
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When you have results like this you better say now, 14.9 trillion dollar debt today

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.3 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
 
Conservative said:
What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty even in the face of data that proves you wrong? Wow, amazing faith in a failed ideology
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What is it about you that makes you think you know how to read statistics with no real education on the subject?

zgoldsmith23 said:
How did it proved him wrong? He didn't post any numbers originally so, thereby, your numbers don't "prove him wrong" on anything.
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I posted a lot of numbers actually. I took every one of his numbers and provided historical context. He, however, doesn't know what that means.
 
whysoserious said:
What is it about you that makes you think you know how to read statistics with no real education on the subject?



I posted a lot of numbers actually. I took every one of his numbers and provided historical context. He, however, doesn't know what that means.
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you have made the claim, I have asked you to read them and interpret them for me and you haven't don't that, says a lto about you since you know the numbers are right and there is no way to positively spin the numbers. obama has a true supporter in you.
 
whysoserious said:
I posted a lot of numbers actually. I took every one of his numbers and provided historical context. He, however, doesn't know what that means.
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Apologies. I must have missed them.
 
whysoserious said:
I think everyone on this thread has seen me provide context for everyone of those numbers at least 5 times - including you.
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Sorry, your context comparing to Bush is irrelevant, what matters are the real numbers to the American voter. Those numbers cannot be spun positively. You apparently have no idea what a leader is and a leader's responsibility so keep doing the liberal song and dance because we all know that liberal ideology is a failure.
 
Conservative said:
Sorry, your context comparing to Bush is irrelevant, what matters are the real numbers to the American voter.
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When placing things in a historical context you fallaciously use nominal numbers not real numbers. :lamo

Those numbers cannot be spun positively.
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A plus seven percentage point increase in GDP for Obama ain't half bad. It is a shame the starting point was so far to negative.

You apparently have no idea what a leader is and a leader's responsibility so keep doing the liberal song and dance because we all know that liberal ideology is a failure.
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Christmas is coming up I suggest you ask Santa for a clue.
 
Conservative said:
You aren't the only one, seems he had a dream and thought he had made a point. There is no context that makes those numbers look good
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Conservative said:
Sorry, your context comparing to Bush is irrelevant, what matters are the real numbers to the American voter. Those numbers cannot be spun positively. You apparently have no idea what a leader is and a leader's responsibility so keep doing the liberal song and dance because we all know that liberal ideology is a failure.
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Right, good luck with your spamming of useless statistics that you have no clue how to read. You keep spamming them like a bot, and I'll keep pointing out your lack of education on the matter. Hey Conservative, remember when you thought adjusting for inflation was a liberal trick? lol
 
whysoserious said:
Right, good luck with your spamming of useless statistics that you have no clue how to read. You keep spamming them like a bot, and I'll keep pointing out your lack of education on the matter. Hey Conservative, remember when you thought adjusting for inflation was a liberal trick? lol
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interesting that you haven't proven the numbers for Obama to be false. Thanks

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
 
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