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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sorry, didn't see any of those groups out at the T.E.A. Party Rallies. Didn't see any T.E.A. Party protesters arrested nor trashing the area they used to protest. Also saw a unified message from the T.E.A. Parties, not a group of malcontents who cannot compete in society and want an entitlement state funded mostly by someone else.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    no, he wasn't clear at all because none of what he says makes any sense nor will that create the jobs you claim you want. Where is the incentive to create jobs when you tax the rich more? Where does that money go? Regulating the banks does what to create jobs? What laws did Wall Street Break and how will more regulations create more jobs? I don't think you really think things through now give me solutions that make sense.
    It makes perfect sense, that is why a majority of the country approves of Obama's jobs plan. Our own history shows us that the incentive to get rich didn't somehow disappear when tax rates for the rich were even double what they are today. The money goes for creating jobs until the market place can recover. That is the number 1 priority. Reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act keeps commercial banks and investment banks from combining and creating wild speculation that brought about the Great Depression and the Great recession, which cost us millions of jobs. These are all things that most of us see clearly, and more and more that are willing to stand up and protest. Day 31 today.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It makes perfect sense, that is why a majority of the country approves of Obama's jobs plan. Our own history shows us that the incentive to get rich didn't somehow disappear when tax rates for the rich were even double what they are today. The money goes for creating jobs until the market place can recover. That is the number 1 priority. Reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act keeps commercial banks and investment banks from combining and creating wild speculation that brought about the Great Depression and the Great recession, which cost us millions of jobs. These are all things that most of us see clearly, and more and more that are willing to stand up and protest. Day 31 today.
    You confuse plurality with a majority in that I have not seen over 50% support the job plan. I am still waiting for you to explain your solution how to the problem. How is taxing the rich going to create jobs? How is penalizing Wall Street going to create jobs? Reinstating Glass-Steagall that Clinton signed does what? Do you believe it is the government's role to create jobs? If so how do you explain the Obama record of adding 4.2 trillion to the debt and having a 2.6 million net JOB LOSS?

    What I see quite clearly are leftwing groups who want revolution not reforms. I see deadbeat, braindead leftwing activists trying to destroy the U.S. economy and capitalism. Support for this group is misguided and short sighted but like with everything else people like you need to learn the hard way.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    You confuse plurality with a majority in that I have not seen over 50% support the job plan. I am still waiting for you to explain your solution how to the problem. How is taxing the rich going to create jobs?
    You do not understand the definition of plurality even though I provided it to you directly. Eliminating the tax breaks for the rich can fund jobs temporarily, stimulating the economy, just as proposed in the Jobs Act.

    How is penalizing Wall Street going to create jobs?
    Holding those accountable for their speculation with people's life savings will help prevent future recessions and depressions which result in massive unemployment.

    Reinstating Glass-Steagall that Clinton signed does what?
    I just told you, it does not allow commercial banks to combine with investment banks.

    Do you believe it is the government's role to create jobs?
    As a temporary measure when the private market is unable to do so, which it has been for the last 5 years.

    If so how do you explain the Obama record of adding 4.2 trillion to the debt and having a 2.6 million net JOB LOSS?
    Your numbers are bogus and have been disproved over and over.

    What I see quite clearly are leftwing groups who want revolution not reforms. I see deadbeat, braindead leftwing activists trying to destroy the U.S. economy and capitalism. Support for this group is misguided and short sighted but like with everything else people like you need to learn the hard way.
    Yes you see all sorts of things that aren't there.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Catawba;1059880522]You do not understand the definition of plurality even though I provided it to you directly. Eliminating the tax breaks for the rich can fund jobs temporarily, stimulating the economy, just as proposed in the Jobs Act.
    Do you not understand that polls can be manipulated depending on the way the question is asked but I haven't seen a poll where the popularity of the program was over 50% until the question was skewe. Elminating tax breaks on the rich puts the money where? How do you know what the rich do with their money? How do you know what I do with mine? As stated I'll bet I give more to charity than you make plus I know where my money goes. Do you know where yours goes?

    Holding those accountable for their speculation with people's life savings will help prevent future recessions and depressions which result in massive unemployment.
    How about govt. speculation with your tax dollars, Solyndra and Sun Power? How about govt. greed and keeping people dependent? Your belief in the liberal style of govt. has failed all over the world yet you want that misery here?

    I just told you, it does not allow commercial banks to combine with investment banks.
    Do you have a 401K? Where is that money invested?

    As a temporary measure when the private market is unable to do so, which it has been for the last 5 years.
    when the govt. creates jobs it is funded by tax dollars and that creates debt. Obama has added 4.2 trillion to the debt and has a net job loss of 2.6 million

    Your numbers are bogus and have been disproved over and over.
    you have proven nothing only that you are brainwashed in your opinion. The Treasury Dept is the keeper of the books and shows the debt increased by 4.2 trillion since Obama took office

    Debt by year

    Government - Historical Debt Outstanding Annual

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Yes you see all sorts of things that aren't there.
    I see reality, apparently you don't

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Ten years of taxes to pay for one year of bailouts for public employees, and more money laundering for Obama's millionaire bundlers is not recovery.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by neocon1225 View Post
    You speak of buffers while "better long term solutions" are being made up, but I ask you do you really believe that Barack Obama is working on "better long term solutions?" Do you trust that Obama is really doing that?
    Well, let's see...

    - Expedite U.S. pattents in order to promote new products and spur domestic manufacturing. Two important components to improve GDP could come out of this: consumption and exports....check.

    - trade deals with India, Korea and South America: Increased manufacturing and again exports...check.

    Now, if he can work on long-term tax reform and immigration reform, I'd think he'd have a the country on a path toward long-term economic sustainability.

    50% there...not bad.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Ten years of taxes to pay for one year of bailouts for public employees, and more money laundering for Obama's millionaire bundlers is not recovery.
    And you were okay with 8 years of no new taxes to pay for two wars and an unfunded prescription drug program? Again, you guys act like the deficit only occurred since January 20, 2009. Get real!!!

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    No, conservatives were not OK Medicare D.

    Obama will create more debt than all who came before him, with nothing to show for it.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And you were okay with 8 years of no new taxes to pay for two wars and an unfunded prescription drug program? Again, you guys act like the deficit only occurred since January 20, 2009. Get real!!!
    Deficits are created between October 1 and Sept 30 of each year, debt is cumulative. Obama has added 4.2 trillion to the ebt, where is your outrage? The wars cost 1.4 trillion over 10 years or 140 a year. It is frustrating to see so many people misinformed.

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