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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The bill never had a change because 47 Republicans - the entirety of Senate Republicans - were dead set on voting against it!!! It wouldn't have mattered if all 53 Democrats voted for the plan; they'd still need atleast 8 Republicans to vote with them.

    Stop being disingenuous about this vote.
    The GOP offered a straight up vote.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But it did work! Teachers, police and firefighters were able to stay on the job until just last year. I consider that a win for the states and for the country.



    Considering that private sector job growth has on the rise even after the Census workers were removed from the numbers before things went to hell with the debt limit negotiations, I'd say federal jobs spending was working quite well and would have ended once the nation began to see sustainable job growth. I mean, look at what's happened since late-July/early August? Private sector job growth has come to a complete stand-still. And where is the free market system? Where is big business? Has the private sector stepped forward to pickup where federal spending has ceased? THIS IS THE FOOLISHNESS PEOPLE WHO THINK AS YOU AND CONSERVATIVE DO DON'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION!!!

    The private sector is still hurting, but you guys refuse to see it!!! Look at what the banks are doing...charging fees...still trying to recoup their loses. Yes, it's in part due to a Dodd-Frank ruling on bank fees (I forget the exact portion of the legislation the new bank fee rules apply to), but must they try doing this now when the economy is still soft? C'mon!!!



    OR it provides the states with a buffle while a better other long-term initiatives come online that spurs real job growth. Just depends on your perspective. You can either remain partisan and have a short-sighted point of view or you can try to see the big picture and the long-term view. Your choice. I prefer the latter.



    I understand your concerns, but tax reform takes time. I doubt it get done any time soon even if Obama isn't re-elected. But if that's your biggest opposition to short-term stimulus spending, you really do need to come out of your partisan bubble.
    You speak of buffers while "better long term solutions" are being made up, but I ask you do you really believe that Barack Obama is working on "better long term solutions?" Do you trust that Obama is really doing that? My biggest reservation is I don't trust our current crop of "leaders" to really work on any good long term solutions. Obama just wants to keep spending money when it didn't work the first time. Sure cops and firefighters kept their jobs for a while longer, but now the federal dollars are gone and the states need more money. We could pass this "jobs" bill tomorrow and in a few years the states will need more money and then more money and then more money. Until our government, local, state, and federal, get serious about fiscal restraint and serious cuts in spending we'll be stuck in this cycle forever.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It's not perfect - but it would certainly work better than what we are saddled with currently.
    Hey if it worked in Sim City, its got to work in real life right?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Hey if it worked in Sim City, its got to work in real life right?
    Why do you continue to buy what the Obama Administration tells you?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you continue to buy what the Obama Administration tells you?
    It didn't come from Obama, it came from Maxis, the creator of SimCity.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It didn't come from Obama, it came from Maxis, the creator of SimCity.
    the Occupy Wall Street Protest groups now include the Communist Party, Nazi Party, and the Socialist Party and Obama has embraced their protests when it was Obama that supported the Wall Street bailout and received the most money from Wall Street in the last election. This is the man you support but apparently like most at the OWS protests you don't know why either.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by neocon1225 View Post
    You speak of buffers while "better long term solutions" are being made up, but I ask you do you really believe that Barack Obama is working on "better long term solutions?" Do you trust that Obama is really doing that? My biggest reservation is I don't trust our current crop of "leaders" to really work on any good long term solutions. Obama just wants to keep spending money when it didn't work the first time. Sure cops and firefighters kept their jobs for a while longer, but now the federal dollars are gone and the states need more money. We could pass this "jobs" bill tomorrow and in a few years the states will need more money and then more money and then more money. Until our government, local, state, and federal, get serious about fiscal restraint and serious cuts in spending we'll be stuck in this cycle forever.
    What Objective Voice doesn't seem to understand is the role of the Local, State, and Federal Govt. and has a naive approach to funding local services. OV will not address the issue as to why it is someone else from another state to fund police, fire, and teachers in another state other than the belief it is the right thing to do. Wonder who is going to bail OV out when financial problems arise? Makes absolutely no sense for the Federal Govt. to spend money in a state or local community until that state or local community tries to get themselves out of their financial problems. Sounds like a very naive and young approach to problem solving.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    the Occupy Wall Street Protest groups now include the Communist Party, Nazi Party, and the Socialist Party and Obama has embraced their protests when it was Obama that supported the Wall Street bailout and received the most money from Wall Street in the last election. This is the man you support but apparently like most at the OWS protests you don't know why either.
    I support the non-violent protests too!
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I support the non-violent protests too!
    Just an example of the idiots protesting. Sounds like this one really has it figured out. Tell me what the hell she is talking about

    Haftin' To Be Uproared - Occupy Atlanta - YouTube

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not a fan of freedom eh? Try not to get too giddy, the protesters are still standing up to their oppressors.
    Freedom and liberty are awesome. The Arab Spring, not so much. Why do you believe the Muslim Brotherhood is for freedom? Have you not read the Koran? Have you not seen what happens when Islamofascists have their way with a country?

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