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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Right, the President's job's bill is under discussion. The GOP sure showed the majority of Americans that wanted the jobs bill to pass, who was the boss, didn't they?
    Just because most of America wants something, doesn't make it the right thing to do. This isn't a pure democracy, this is a republic. We elect officials and they propose and vote on measures. The "majority" is a fickle group that often wants contradictory things. They want a balanced budget, yet they don't want Entitlement spending touched, they want stimulus spending yet they want the deficit reduced, they supported the War in Iraq, now they oppose it, etc.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You provided poll numbers none of which are over 50% and show that those people are just like you, buying the Obama rhetoric and ignoring the Obama results.

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval
    Really? You don't know what plurality means?

    "plu·ral·i·ty (pl-rl-t)
    n. pl. plu·ral·i·ties

    a. In a contest of more than two choices, the number of votes cast for the winning choice if this number is not more than one half of the total votes cast.
    b. The number by which the vote of the winning choice in such a contest exceeds that of the closest opponent.
    5. The larger or greater part."
    plurality - definition of plurality by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Show me 4 polls that show a plurality for disapproval of Obama's job's plan.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    2 million jobs lost is better than 4 million jobs lost, that the stimulus prevented,
    heck that's nothing. we have 90 million jobs in this economy - the Stimulus saved them all!!!

    don'cha love non-falsifiable arguments? good thing they never actually subjected their whacko theories about how you can get richer by going deeper into debt to a falsifiable test marked by an objective prediction, eh?

    oh. wait......





    err... woops?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Really? You don't know what plurality means?

    "plu·ral·i·ty (pl-rl-t)
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    a. In a contest of more than two choices, the number of votes cast for the winning choice if this number is not more than one half of the total votes cast.
    b. The number by which the vote of the winning choice in such a contest exceeds that of the closest opponent.
    5. The larger or greater part."
    plurality - definition of plurality by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Show me 4 polls that show a plurality for disapproval of Obama's job's plan.
    Yes, I do know what plurality is, do you know what failure is? Apparently not because that is liberalism and Obama. His results speak volumes but you ignore the results and continue to buy the rhetoric.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by neocon1225 View Post
    Just because most of America wants something, doesn't make it the right thing to do. This isn't a pure democracy, this is a republic. We elect officials and they propose and vote on measures. The "majority" is a fickle group that often wants contradictory things. They want a balanced budget, yet they don't want Entitlement spending touched, they want stimulus spending yet they want the deficit reduced, they supported the War in Iraq, now they oppose it, etc.
    We will see how that strategy plays out for the GOP.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Flat taxes are regressive, which means they concentrate wealth at the top so they do not stimulate the economy as well as progressive taxes. This is because the rich do not spend as much of their wealth (in the US) as do the middle and lower working classes.
    No one said anything about a purely flat tax, just a flatter one where the tax base is broadened so we can have that "shared sacrifice" Democrats long for. Besides, the middle, upper middle, and upper classes drive this economy. Who do you think invests in business and creates jobs? It's not the lower classes I can assure you. The reason that businesses didn't wholeheartedly reinvest in America under the Bush tax cuts is because businesses aren't dumb. They know that temporary measures end at some point, but they can't be sure of when. This climate of uncertainty doesn't encourage businesses to invest in America and open up wide scale hiring.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    heck that's nothing. we have 90 million jobs in this economy - the Stimulus saved them all!!!

    don'cha love non-falsifiable arguments? good thing they never actually subjected their whacko theories about how you can get richer by going deeper into debt to a falsifiable test marked by an objective prediction, eh?

    oh. wait......





    err... woops?
    Exactly, but rhetoric trumps actual results in the Obama cult world. The merchandising of Obama continues and the cult followers buy the rhetoric. Thanks for posting actual results which will be ignored.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We will see how that strategy plays out for the GOP.
    Are you ever going to address the Obama actual results? Why is it that results don't matter now?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We will see how that strategy plays out for the GOP.
    Well as my signature says:
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    But I happen to think, if 2010 is any indication, that it may work out well for the GOP. Someone as to be the adult and talk about the issues that are facing our nation even if it may be politically unpopular to do so. It appears as though those on the left want to fiddle while Rome burns, but those of us who are middle-right and over are ready to discuss the debt, entitlement reform, and tax reform.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    heck that's nothing. we have 90 million jobs in this economy - the Stimulus saved them all!!!

    don'cha love non-falsifiable arguments? good thing they never actually subjected their whacko theories about how you can get richer by going deeper into debt to a falsifiable test marked by an objective prediction, eh?

    oh. wait......





    err... woops?
    Your unlinked graph was based on earlier predictions and does not show the value of the infrastructure improvements, nor the value of our improved economy. The majority of economists have determined that the stimulus helped our economy.


    What has the GOP done to fix the problems caused by the last administration?
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