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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yet you voted for him at least twice despite his dismal performance on deficit spending and private sector employment even with a 678 billion dollar jobs plan
    The alternative was Gore and Kerry, I chose wisely

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    The alternative was Gore and Kerry, I chose wisely
    Congratulations. Your boy's economic results were astounding. Too bad you don't have the independence to go Libertarian. As much as I disagree with their platform, at least their are ideologically and economically consistent.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Congratulations. Your boy's economic results were astounding.
    We will never know what Gore or Kerry's would be but we do know their legislative record and that tells me they would be worse

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Republicans block Obama jobs billPosting the exact same thing three times in a row is not needed and is borderline spamming. There's a multi-quote function for a reason, in part for something like this. Cease this kind of posting or consequences will come
    My apology, that was frustration setting in as the opposition seems to not want to address the actual results. Won't happen again

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    We will never know what Gore or Kerry's would be but we do know their legislative record and that tells me they would be worse
    Just out of curiosity, who did you vote for in '04?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yet you voted for him at least twice despite his dismal performance on deficit spending and private sector employment even with a 678 billion dollar jobs plan
    Who did you vote for? Oh, we're seeing it right now aren't we?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Who did you vote for? Oh, we're seeing it right now aren't we?
    My vote doesn't count because I live in Texas.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Just out of curiosity, who did you vote for in '04?
    Bush vs Kerry? Who would a conservative vote for?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    My vote doesn't count because I live in Texas.
    As do I so what is your point?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    I was reading back over this thread and noticed that Conservative has had a rather formiddable foe in whysoserious. Good job, you young know-it-all.

    While researching historical data on GDP figures, I came across this from About.com:

    Recent GDP Trends:

    In 2008 and 2009, the economy contracted for four consecutive quarters. The last time this happened? The Great Depression. The economy fell 1.8% in Q1 2008 with the Bear Stearns bailout, but resumed 1.3% growth by Q2. When the banking system imploded in the third quarter, the economy shrank 3.7%. The Lehman Brothers collapse delivered a crippling blow--the economy dropped 8.9% in Q4, contracting .3% for the year. GDP plummeted 6.4% in Q1 2009. By the second quarter, the economic stimulus package started to work: the economy shrank only .7% in Q2. It finally grew 2.2% in Q3 and 5.6% in Q4. (Source: GDP Current Statistics)

    The financial crisis was worse than the 2000 recession, which was over by 2003 when the economy grew 2.5%. It expanded 3.6% in 2004, and was slowed only briefly (2.9%) by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. By March 2006, the economy peaked at 4.8%, driven by the housing bubble. By the end of the year, the economy only grew 2.7%.

    When the housing bubble broke, the economy only grew 1.2% in the first quarter of 2007. A falling dollar boosted exports, spurring growth to 3.2% in the second and 3.6% in the third quarters. When the Subprime Mortgage Crisis hit in October, growth slowed to 2.1%. Overall, the economy expanded 2.1% in 2007.

    GDP Outlook:

    The Philadelphia Federal Reserve predicts that GDP will grow 1.7% in 2011, 2.6 percent in 2012, and 2.9 percent in 2013. That seems reasonably conservative for three reasons:

    1. First, the $14 trillion national debt the U.S. is saddled with will limit further fiscal stimulus.

    2. Home prices will stay flat through 2011, thanks to an 15-month pipeline of homes going into foreclosure.

    3. Commercial real estate will experience continued weakness through 2011.

    Unfortunately, growth needs to be 3% or greater to really stimulate job creation. Therefore, unemployment will probably stay at around 9% in 2011, which will limit demand and keep growth flat. Growth will come from companies that export to growing emerging market countries. (Source: Philadelphia Federal Reserve)

    (Article updated September 5, 2011)
    Hmmmm...

    So, to summarize:

    - the Obama Stimulus bill did work!

    - The President and Super Debt Committee Democrat's are right to "GO BIG" in deficit reduction

    - Republicans should stop being obstructionist and pass the President's job's bill to spur job growth.

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