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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Yes, correct, if you have $5 in 1985 you will pay 1985 prices. But if you have $7 in 1990, you do not have more than you had in 1985 - though if you do not adjust for inflation it will look that way. Do you get that or is that over your head still?

    So if the GDP was 100 in 1985 and inflation was 5% and in 1986 GDP was 103, GDP actually went down because you should have 105 if it matched inflation. I don't know how I can explain this any better to you.
    Don't care about inflation in the 80's but did at the time nor do I care about 1980's GDP expressed in 2005 dollars but what I do care about are the 17 million jobs that the Reagan economy generated and the 2.6 million job loss that Obama has generated. Ask your professor to explain that to you.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I have no idea whether she is liberal or not. What the hell does that have to do with anything?
    Because being book smart and street stupid doesn't generate results in the real world.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Don't care about inflation in the 80's but did at the time nor do I care about 1980's GDP expressed in 2005 dollars but what I do care about are the 17 million jobs that the Reagan economy generated and the 2.6 million job loss that Obama has generated. Ask your professor to explain that to you.
    Get a link, cite your numbers directly, and let's examine them.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Get a link, cite your numbers directly, and let's examine them.
    Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS12000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 1980 to 2010

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    1980 99879 99995 99713 99233 98945 98682 98796 98824 99077 99317 99545 99634
    1981 99955 100191 100571 101056 101048 100298 100693 100689 100064 100378 100207 99645
    1982 99692 99762 99672 99576 100116 99543 99493 99633 99504 99215 99112 99032
    1983 99161 99089 99179 99560 99642 100633 101208 101608 102016 102039 102729 102996
    1984 103201 103824 103967 104336 105193 105591 105435 105163 105490 105638 105972 106223
    1985 106302 106555 106989 106936 106932 106505 106807 107095 107657 107847 108007 108216
    1986 108887 108480 108837 108952 109089 109576 109810 110015 110085 110273 110475 110728
    1987 110953 111257 111408 111794 112434 112246 112634 113057 112909 113282 113505 113793
    1988 114016 114227 114037 114650 114292 114927 115060 115282 115356 115638 116100 116104
    1989 116708 116776 117022 117097 117099 117418 117472 117655 117354 117581 117912 117830

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because being book smart and street stupid doesn't generate results in the real world.
    So you think it is a good idea to call a person (who has a PhD) you have never met and know absolutely nothing about "another book smart street stupid liberal genius"? No wonder you never learned anything about economics or math.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So you think it is a good idea to call a person (who has a PhD) you have never met and know absolutely nothing about "another book smart street stupid liberal genius"? No wonder you never learned anything about economics or math.
    Said it sounds like and after meeting thousands and working in the business world for 35 years, that is my opinion

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS12000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 1980 to 2010

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    1980 99879 99995 99713 99233 98945 98682 98796 98824 99077 99317 99545 99634
    1981 99955 100191 100571 101056 101048 100298 100693 100689 100064 100378 100207 99645
    1982 99692 99762 99672 99576 100116 99543 99493 99633 99504 99215 99112 99032
    1983 99161 99089 99179 99560 99642 100633 101208 101608 102016 102039 102729 102996
    1984 103201 103824 103967 104336 105193 105591 105435 105163 105490 105638 105972 106223
    1985 106302 106555 106989 106936 106932 106505 106807 107095 107657 107847 108007 108216
    1986 108887 108480 108837 108952 109089 109576 109810 110015 110085 110273 110475 110728
    1987 110953 111257 111408 111794 112434 112246 112634 113057 112909 113282 113505 113793
    1988 114016 114227 114037 114650 114292 114927 115060 115282 115356 115638 116100 116104
    1989 116708 116776 117022 117097 117099 117418 117472 117655 117354 117581 117912 117830
    Thanks for the numbers and the link. If you have read what I wrote in the past, you'll see that I agree that unemployment is one of our worst issues in the economy today. However, I do not think you've given Obama a fair cut at lowering it. From bls.gov:
    1981: 7.6% (when he took office, the economy was heading into the second half of a double-dip recession)
    1982: 9.7% (this is the bottom of the double dip)
    1983: 9.6% (from here things start getting better)
    1984: 7.4% (Unemployment began a strong trend downward)

    --------------------------------------

    2008: 5.8%
    2009: 9.3%
    2010: 9.6%
    Current: 9.1%

    If, within a year, Obama is able to trend unemployment down to around 7%, will you support the job he has done with the economy?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So you think it is a good idea to call a person (who has a PhD) you have never met and know absolutely nothing about "another book smart street stupid liberal genius"? No wonder you never learned anything about economics or math.
    So now opinions must be PC, or is that only Conservative opinions?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So now opinions must be PC, or is that only Conservative opinions?

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    Who said PC? I think it would be dumb to call anyone a idiot that I have never met (not only someone that I have not met but know absolutely zero about), let alone a doctor. What does that have to do with political correctness, rather than political hackness? Keep in mind, the only thing Conservative knows about this person is that she teaches Actuarial Science at a University and he called her a stupid liberal.

    You support that?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Who said PC? I think it would be dumb to call anyone a idiot that I have never met (not only someone that I have not met but know absolutely zero about), let alone a doctor. What does that have to do with political correctness, rather than political hackness? Keep in mind, the only thing Conservative knows about this person is that she teaches Actuarial Science at a University and he called her a stupid liberal.

    You support that?
    I don't know, is she? Maybe he has met her I don't know....But I do find it rather enlightening that you seem to place emphasis on the academic pedigree, and am left wondering if that acceptance of thought would also apply to a conservative PhD who says the opposite of what you agree with ideologically?

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