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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It has nothing to do with what happened in history....



    How am i wrong?
    I merely asked a question which he refused to answer
    When did I talk about history? I am talking about right now. If you want socialism or communism, go live in Russia or China. That is how they do things. That is not how we do it in America.

    I think you need to go back and read again, I don't think I refused to answer anything.
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    LOL! "We learn from history". That hasn't happened once in history, hence history repeating itself. What has happened in the past is irrelevant to the solution that corrects the future. The point of my statement, that you took out of context, is that regardless of who has ****ed up the economy in the past, Obama has only made things worse.
    I would say we should start learning from history...
    No want has happened in the past is still very relevant sense we have carried over plans from the past...
    I wouldnt say Obama has made things "worse", i would say he hasnt acted in the right seeming ways or repealed the right policies... OWS should say a lot to our(my) opinion towards Obama.

    Yes, but they are not the same, and the people that should learn from them, simply just do not. And even if we did learn from a spcific crisis, it does not mean that the same solution applies to a different, even similar crisis. If we were to actually be learning from these situations we would not need to always be solving them.
    This is true....

    People are spending at a very low rate compared to 5 years ago. This is the problem. What do you feel the various other reasons are?
    Tax system broke, loose regulations, jobs over seas,

    Businesses could have higher profits by expanding their businesses (which would require more employeed), yet they are not doing this because the economy is unstable and it is not a very wise risk to take.
    Ohhh sooo its just "too risky" soo if we keep that mindset and that pace then we are never gonna get out of here...

    Since there are all of these companies out there just collecting money and not growing to meet the demands of the growing population, what is stopping you, or any other idiot whining about jobs from starting your own company and employing these unemployed people?
    Ohh so i get it... Its my fault now! Its my fault...


    There is however a correlation between people having more money in their pockets and how much they spend. As the cost of living increases, people will spend less on other items. Period. If we do not get government spending under control and stop wasting hard earned Amercan money, the economy WILL improve.
    I agree we should cut back on spending but we probably disagree on what to cut spending for....


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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    You just said he created the .com L O L.
    What are you studying for??? The 'bar' exam...

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    When did I talk about history? I am talking about right now. If you want socialism or communism, go live in Russia or China. That is how they do things. That is not how we do it in America.

    If you wanna talk about socialism i advice you to go to this thread....
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-con...ism-hated.html

    I think you need to go back and read again, I don't think I refused to answer anything.
    Wasnt talking about you was talkin about Conservative...


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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Ssssssppppppinnnnn Ignore post, LOL you crack me up.
    Keep dodging that reailty, Super Brain. Show us all your dancing skills.

    You do realize that you spined my post way out of what I was saying? It is an ideology that states, "If a country can't produce enogh goods to support its residence, then it is a failed society?" Christ, your post literally make me facepalm in RL.
    Your ideology is a joke. I produce enough goods or perform enough work to support my own residence. Why should the "country" produce the goods to support society? And before you go spouting your propoganda, I mean why should America just support it's residence? Do you even know what "a country" is? What is America?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Where in the original Constitution does it say PROVIDE for Domestic Welfare?
    It says General Welfare which various constitutional scholars have different interpretations of that..

    The Constution was never intended to be an economic document but a governance document.
    Thank you for proving my point.
    Socialism is a economic system...

    Suggest you read some American history.


    Only the nuts in the OWS protests seem to support destruction of the capitalistic system, how will that help this country?
    Sure there are some anti capitalists in OWS like myself when i was at my local one it doenst mean they are an anti capitalist movement....


    I prospered in the capitalistic economy because I was rewarded for my efforts, for my hard work, and for the initiative I displayed. I probably give more to charity than you make, and I have no problem with what someone else makes. Why do you?
    I am a student... You want to compare charity givings? This has to do with the current debate how Conservative?


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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I would say we should start learning from history...
    No want has happened in the past is still very relevant sense we have carried over plans from the past...
    I wouldnt say Obama has made things "worse", i would say he hasnt acted in the right seeming ways or repealed the right policies... OWS should say a lot to our(my) opinion towards Obama.

    So really your statement was completely irrelevant in the first place. We have not learned anything from history and we are currently in this situation. Let's not forget that the point of this thread is to debate Obama's job plan. Obama has not even learned one thing from this past 3 years as a failure president.


    This is true....
    I know. And it has a huge effect on our current situation

    Tax system broke, loose regulations, jobs over seas,
    I thought taxes didn't have anything to do with it? Loose regulations? Jobs over seas? Are you really suggesting that we hold American companies hostage and live in an isolated land of our own fantasies? There is a world out there far beyond your nose and far beyond America. There are realities that need to be considered that don't necessary go along with how you feel it should be.

    Ohhh sooo its just "too risky" soo if we keep that mindset and that pace then we are never gonna get out of here...
    So now you are suggesting that we force companies to hire people? Liberal logic would suggest that these corporations are trying to own all of the money. So why, if they could, would they not expand their business to make even more money? Oh, wait, they would if the economy would support it.

    Ohh so i get it... Its my fault now! Its my fault...
    If you are sitting around whining and begging for other people's money while living in hardship, then yes, your situation is your fault. Your reply is an obvious deflection from the point of my question. What is stopping you from making your own business and running it the way you want to? Wouldn't that solve a lot of problems for you and some people that you are able to provide jobs to? Above you were just saying that the "it's too risky" mindset was bad yet you won't go by your own logic and just create a solution to the problem?


    I agree we should cut back on spending but we probably disagree on what to cut spending for....
    Right, because you would want to spend more on distributing wealth and I would want to spend more on education which would essentiall make us all more individually wealthy without somebody holding your hand and doing it for you....
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    TheDemSocialist;1059910536]It says General Welfare which various constitutional scholars have different interpretations of that..
    The Original Constitution says PROMOTE not PROVIDE for Domestic welfare so how can that be misinterpreted?

    Thank you for proving my point.

    Socialism is a economic system...
    Yes, and a failed one at that, failed except for those that need the govt. to take care of them and those that cannot compete. The private sector can do both better. Our economy was created so that individuals help others and left alone they can do that. Micro managing of the govt has created the 14.9 trillion dollar debt which is 100% of our yearly GDP. Our Founders believed in individualism not socialism. They promoted individual wealth creation and a small limited govt. which is the opposite of socialism


    Sure there are some anti capitalists in OWS like myself when i was at my local one it doenst mean they are an anti capitalist movement....
    What are the people protesting for and why Wall Street as they don't make the laws. Interesting, growing up during the Vietnam War era there were a lot of protests then, I didn't have time to protest as I was looking for and found a job. How are the protests going to create jobs for those individuals?


    I am a student... You want to compare charity givings? This has to do with the current debate how Conservative?
    Yes, I figured you were a student, the point was I give a lot of my money to charity as do millions of other Americans. I keep hearing about the income disparity but never what those evil rich people do with their money. Why is that? When I give my money to charity I know where it goes, when I am forced to give my money to the govt. for sociali engineering I have no idea where it is going. What does a large bloated Federal Bureaucracy know about a social problem in your local community?

    I have no use for socialists and very little for kids who claim to know it all having never been in the work force or experienced the responsibility of having to really take care of themselves. When I hear someone talking about fair share why don't I ever hear someone defining fair share? Why don't you get a job and then you can give whatever you think your fair share is instead of using a term that you never define?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It says General Welfare which various constitutional scholars have different interpretations of that..
    Bull****. Constitutional scholars do not disagree. Its the liberal pukes who have bastardized the issue.

    What did Jefferson think ? Here are his exact words. What is so hard to ****ing understand ?

    To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.

    Thomas Jefferson
    Sure there are some anti capitalists in OWS like myself when i was at my local one it doenst mean they are an anti capitalist movement....
    But it is. Excuses don't matter. Don't I wish we could give the OWS folks the entire state of NY. Then watch them commit socio-economic suicide. Losers.


    I am a student... You want to compare charity givings? This has to do with the current debate how Conservative?
    Now THAT's a shock ! Conservatives are more charitable then liberals also, btw. Google it.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Seeing as how this post was directed at me, I'm a full-time student and a part-time employee. We should redefine personal attack to this.
    This has no bearing on the fact that I think the entire premise of your socialist arguments are BS. I have already been a full time student and a part time employee. Real life doesn't start until after that.
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