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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your tax figures do not reflect FICA taxes paid by wage earners, or gas taxes. The top 1% owns 42.7% of the wealth, and pays considerably less than that percentage of the taxes.

    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html
    Really? You are going to post a blog as a source when real IRS data is just a few pages back that show that you are full of ****? My tax figures? Are you some kind of mental patient?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    Maybe you don't understand what a tax break is, but it is not the same thing as them receiving tax money. My post does not lack logic, it is 100% fact. This has been presented with sources several times over this very 100+ page thread. What you liberals need to start doing is learning and accepting the facts, your feelings don't matter. 47% of Americans accounted for -3% of federal income tax. This has also been posted several times, with sources, in this thread.
    For most of your post, you should check out my cig... For the other part, read part 2:

    Do you not know how to follow logic? If taxes are lower on the rich, someone else much pick up the slack, aka the middle class...
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    When in the history has any country ever gotten out of a time of crisis we are in right now with jobs and a deficit by cutting taxes? Name one time in history, in country in the world...
    *(no one has ever answered this question)*
    It doesn't matter what has happened in the past. No 2 crisis are the same. In this case we have a stalled economy because people are not spending. This causes businesses to make less money and therefore they cannot support their number of employees, level of manufacturing, etc... The only way to fix this economy is to stop the government from spending like a bunch of drunken old people at a casino and raising our taxes. Put more money back into the private sector (through less government spending, which will eventually equate to less taxes all around) and you will see the economy go the other direction AND an increase in tax income even though the individual tax burden is less.

    Businesses growing = more people working = more money in the private sector = more money speny by the private sector = more tax income. Pretty simple.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your tax figures do not reflect FICA taxes paid by wage earners, or gas taxes. The top 1% owns 42.7% of the wealth, and pays considerably less than that percentage of the taxes.

    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html
    FICA is SS and Medicare
    Gas taxes aren't paid by people who don't drive cars.

    You are unbelievable and I have to believe this is an act.

    Why do you care what someone else makes? Do you have any idea what those top income earners give to charities? Why such disdain for what someone else makes?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    For most of your post, you should check out my cig... For the other part, read part 2:

    Do you not know how to follow logic? If taxes are lower on the rich, someone else much pick up the slack, aka the middle class...
    Pick up what slack? Do you believe that you fund someone else's tax cut? How does that happen since tax cuts come off personal income?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    For most of your post, you should check out my cig... For the other part, read part 2:

    Do you not know how to follow logic? If taxes are lower on the rich, someone else much pick up the slack, aka the middle class...
    Your cig? Do we spell signature with a "C" now? Cignature? Doesn't look quite right to me.

    Taxes are not lower on the rich. As I stated and you are either too stupid to comprehend or you simply ignored, ACTUAL IRS DATA shows the top 1% paid 38% of federal income tax. Also posted in this thread with sources is IRS data that shows that the rich actually paid a higher percentage of EFFECTIVE TAXES than the middle class.

    It is funny how your blog statistics differ from the US Labor department and IRS statistics.

    The problem with our economy is that in 2006, unemployment went through the roof. If you are even worthy of speaking in public about this topic again, you should be able to tell us what happened in 2006.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your tax figures do not reflect FICA taxes paid by wage earners, or gas taxes. The top 1% owns 42.7% of the wealth, and pays considerably less than that percentage of the taxes.

    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html
    Wealth is taxed when it is earned. Its a shock to liberals ... I know .

    Let me guess. You want to tax their money every stinking year. And then gubmit can give you some. <sigh>

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Pick up what slack? Do you believe that you fund someone else's tax cut? How does that happen since tax cuts come off personal income?
    Yes I do, if the most financially stressed people have higher taxes, they are unfairly taxed. Why do you think it is okay for the top 1% to pay less taxes than the middle class? How do you not correlate the middle taxes being high because the top 1% aren't paying their fair share?

    (Hint: He will evade or ssssspppppiiiiinnnn)
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Yes I do, if the most financially stressed people have higher taxes, they are unfairly taxed. Why do you think it is okay for the top 1% to pay less taxes than the middle class? How do you not correlate the middle taxes being high because the top 1% aren't paying their fair share?

    (Hint: He will evade or ssssspppppiiiiinnnn)
    "Fair" share ............. <sigh>

    Can you define "fair" for us. From the liberal perspective anyway ? How much free-stuff are liberals entitled to, anyway ?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    It doesn't matter what has happened in the past.
    Come on seriously? So history is pointless...
    This is a very ignorant statement. It does matter. We learn from history...

    No 2 crisis are the same.
    Crisis's are very similar and we can learn from them..

    In this case we have a stalled economy because people are not spending.
    People are spending.
    We have a stalled economy for various other reasons.

    This causes businesses to make less money
    Business's have record profits currently....

    and therefore they cannot support their number of employees, level of manufacturing, etc...
    Business's have record profits currently and yes they can afford employees but they just choose not to.

    The only way to fix this economy is to stop the government from spending like a bunch of drunken old people at a casino and raising our taxes.
    Taxes have not been raised.
    Obama passed the Bush tax cuts..
    And there is no correlation between taxes being raised and job growth/decline... History shows us that taxes have nothing to do with jobs being created/destoryed.

    Put more money back into the private sector (through less government spending, which will eventually equate to less taxes all around) and you will see the economy go the other direction AND an increase in tax income even though the individual tax burden is less.
    May i ask what time in history did this happen?
    Oh yea history apparently is pointless...


    Businesses growing = more people working = more money in the private sector = more money speny by the private sector = more tax income. Pretty simple.


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