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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Not at all and that is part of the problem. There seems to be an ideology out there today that ignores the very foundation upon which this country was built. Millions of voices however aren't being heard although the polls show it. A large majority of Americans are of the opinion that America is in decline and the poor leadership of this Administration who is more focused on dividing and promoting class warfare is to blame. In addition here is an excellent article on the subject and explanation as to why. Liberals and Obama supporters will ignore it because of the author but it is the content that matters.

    Bill O'Reilly: America in Decline - Talking Points - The O'Reilly Factor - Fox News
    O'Reilly?

    Working together to solve larger problems doesn't mean we're not slef relient. O'Reilly has rarely ever gottne anything right. When will people stop listening to talking heads, entertainers who give next to nothing any real thought? If' you're listening to any of them, taking any of them seriously, be it Beck, O'Reilly, Maddow or Oberman, you are the problem.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    O'Reilly?

    Working together to solve larger problems doesn't mean we're not slef relient. O'Reilly has rarely ever gottne anything right. When will people stop listening to talking heads, entertainers who give next to nothing any real thought? If' you're listening to any of them, taking any of them seriously, be it Beck, O'Reilly, Maddow or Oberman, you are the problem.
    As predicted, attack the messenger and ignore the message. what exactly in that message is inaccurate? Did you bother to even read the article?

    Exactly right! Self reliance doesn't exist in today's world as there aren't any consequences for failure in the liberal world

    The answer is the decline in self-reliance. If you understand history, you know that America was founded on the independent principles of honor and hard work. After we achieved independence from England, the federal and state governments basically stepped aside allowing businesses and communities to grow without much interference. If you failed, there was no safety net. You were on your own. And so the folks became strong out of self-preservation.

    Read more: Bill O'Reilly: America in Decline - Talking Points - The O'Reilly Factor - Fox News
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    As predicted, attack the messenger and ignore the message. what exactly in that message is inaccurate? Did you bother to even read the article?

    Exactly right! Self reliance doesn't exist in today's world as there aren't any consequences for failure in the liberal world
    I didn't ingore the message. It's BS, too silly for any thinking person to accept. it misses the point, and doesn't think beyond the talkingpoint they know their audience will swallow with no further thought. Like I said, if you're accepting these types of things, you are the problem.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't ingore the message. It's BS, too silly for any thinking person to accept. it misses the point, and doesn't think beyond the talkingpoint they know their audience will swallow with no further thought. Like I said, if you're accepting these types of things, you are the problem.
    Why specificly is it silly and misses the point. You believe people today are self reliant like our forefathers? You believe there are consquences in the liberal world for poor choices and failure? You think taking personal responsibility for your own life is silly? Or personal responsibility for poor choices?

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    Since then, America has evolved into a country of two minds. Self-reliance remains the key to economic success, but for those who don't want to compete in the marketplace, or simply can't, the federal government has become their lifeblood. The collapse of the family has led to massive entitlement spending on children and single mothers. In addition, the liberal belief that the feds have a moral obligation to provide for the have-nots has led to massive debt. That, in turn, has weakened our economy and robbed America of power, thus the decline.

    President Obama and to lesser extents Presidents Bush and Clinton before him believed in imposing social and worldwide justice using the U.S. Treasury. But the American worker cannot keep up with the tax burden that imposes, so now we're in trouble.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreill...#ixzz1bu2fAtVB
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't ingore the message. It's BS, too silly for any thinking person to accept. it misses the point, and doesn't think beyond the talkingpoint they know their audience will swallow with no further thought. Like I said, if you're accepting these types of things, you are the problem.
    Actually your post typifies and confirms the EXACT message...’America has evolved into a country of two minds’. How exactly are you NOT ‘accepting these types of things’ and are not ‘part of the problem’?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Why specificly is it silly and misses the point. You believe people today are self reliant like our forefathers? You believe there are consquences in the liberal world for poor choices and failure? You think taking personal responsibility for your own life is silly? Or personal responsibility for poor choices?

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    Yes, I do. We enter forts to work against the natives. We raised barns and house together. We have alays had ways to help the poor and the infirmed. One way or another, we've always worked together to solve problems. When we didn't, people suffered. O'Reilly is just playing to the myth, and not the reality.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Yes, I do. We raised barns and house together. We have alays had ways to help the poor and the infirmed.
    Your response seems to confirm that you do agree with the article. "The foundation of America's growing power was a code of conduct...neighborly charity."

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Yes, I do. We enter forts to work against the natives. We raised barns and house together. We have alays had ways to help the poor and the infirmed. One way or another, we've always worked together to solve problems. When we didn't, people suffered. O'Reilly is just playing to the myth, and not the reality.
    How did our forefathers get help? They did help each other and it wasn't the govt. that forced it which is contrary today as this govt. is dividing people and making it tougher for individuals to help each other. When taxes go up, contributions to charities goes down. When govt. divides and demonizes people thus creating dependence then self reliance is reduced as the incentive to take care of one's self is reduced.

    It is this govt. that wants expanded control over individual personal responsibility issues and that plays right into the content of this article, self reliance is a declining trait and the promotion of the ideology of two types of people, the haves and the have nots which of course blames the haves for not helping the have nots. How is that not the decline in America.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    O'Reilly?

    Working together to solve larger problems doesn't mean we're not slef relient. O'Reilly has rarely ever gottne anything right. When will people stop listening to talking heads, entertainers who give next to nothing any real thought? If' you're listening to any of them, taking any of them seriously, be it Beck, O'Reilly, Maddow or Oberman, you are the problem.
    Who on earth would take Bill "I'll do it live!" O'Reilly seriously?


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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Who on earth would take Bill "I'll do it live!" O'Reilly seriously?
    Aw, the diversion continues, it isn't the messenger it is the content of the message. Keep ignoring the decline of self reliance and divison of this country into class which of course means greater control for the Federal Govt. and decline of the state government. The liberal elite keep their power because of people like you

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