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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    And you read mine, you'd see that they didn't. They projected 8% with a wide margin of error.
    You can twist it anyway you want, but the fact still remains. Obama's CEA were strong proponents of the stimulus plan, advocating that it would reduce unemployment to under 8%.

    How'd that prediction work out?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Where do you get this idea that Reagan doubled GDP?

    Growth by Year for all Reagan fiscal years
    Year Real GDP % Growth
    1981 5,021.0 NA
    1982 4,919.3 -2.0
    1983 5,132.3 4.3
    1984 5,505.2 7.3
    1985 5,717.1 3.85
    1986 5,912.4 3.4
    1987 6,113.3 3.4
    1988 6,368.4 4.2
    1989 6,591.8 3.5

    The Reagan Information Page:GDP

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    You won't have a chance to vote for or against Reagan or Bush in 2012 but you will be voting on the Obama record.

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You won't have a chance to vote for or against Reagan or Bush in 2012 but you will be voting on the Obama record.

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
    What does that have to do with your claim that Reagan doubled GDP?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What does that have to do with your claim that Reagan doubled GDP?
    1980 2,788.10
    1981 3,126.80
    1982 3253.20
    1983 3534.60
    1984 3930.90
    1985 4217.50
    1986 4460.10
    1987 4736.40
    1988 5100.40
    1989 5482.10

    Looks pretty close to double to me

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You won't have a chance to vote for or against Reagan or Bush in 2012 but you will be voting on the Obama record.

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
    Holy ****, that is running away when caught out in a lie in such a blatant way it is hilarious. Sometimes you look better to admit you got it wrong.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    You can twist it anyway you want, but the fact still remains. Obama's CEA were strong proponents of the stimulus plan, advocating that it would reduce unemployment to under 8%.

    How'd that prediction work out?
    It did clearly curb employment losses and kept it from ever getting past 10.1%. And by the way, you are the one twisting facts by saying that a project was a promise. They projected that unemployment would peak at 8%. They were clearly wrong. There is a difference between being wrong and lying, and I hope that you can see the difference.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Holy ****, that is running away when caught out in a lie in such a blatant way it is hilarious. Sometimes you look better to admit you got it wrong.
    Have you seen this thread? He has literally spammed that for at least 20 pages, and we have debunked every "fact" on his list.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    1980 2,788.10
    1981 3,126.80
    1982 3253.20
    1983 3534.60
    1984 3930.90
    1985 4217.50
    1986 4460.10
    1987 4736.40
    1988 5100.40
    1989 5482.10

    Looks pretty close to double to me
    Hmmm that doesn't match up with the BEA numbers nor the link I provided.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    1980 2,788.10
    1981 3,126.80
    1982 3253.20
    1983 3534.60
    1984 3930.90
    1985 4217.50
    1986 4460.10
    1987 4736.40
    1988 5100.40
    1989 5482.10

    Looks pretty close to double to me
    He wasn't in office at in 1980. So you need to remove the first number - at which point is clearly not doubled. But, it doesn't matter because you once again forgot to adjust for inflation. He increased real GDP (that's an important term - look it up) by 24.07731749%.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmmm that doesn't match up with the BEA numbers nor the link I provided.
    He used the wrong numbers again. Your numbers are probably adjusted for inflation, and he started a year before Reagan was in office.
    Last edited by whysoserious; 10-25-11 at 08:22 PM.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmmm that doesn't match up with the BEA numbers nor the link I provided.
    No because you used 2005 chained numbers which have nothing to do with the GDP at the time

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