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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Leadership is not a policy nor is "pro-growth economic policy". What policy exactly? And leadership alone does nothing as it would be defined by the policies themselves. So again, name a policy - it shouldn't be that hard if you know what you are talking about.
    Leadership sold the policy because Democrats controlled the House. The Reagan Economic policy included the three year across the board tax cut that passed in August 1981, Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    So, to rap this all up, because the Republican party blocked "senate control" from 2008-2010 they gained control in 2010
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    I see we are on step #4 today (Ssssspppppiiiiiinnnnn, with a little bit of #5, Make Personal Insult). Did you not read this statement?

    "BTW, just to ask to have the floor and then to go through the motions of denying takes up time."

    So that means IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT THE DEMOCRATS COULD PERFORM CLOTURE.


    Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the filibuster could be changed by majority vote, using the so-called nuclear option, also sometimes called the constitutional option by proponents. Even if a filibuster attempt is unsuccessful, the process takes floor time. In recent years the majority has preferred to avoid filibusters by moving to other business when a filibuster (This would mean the bill they are trying to pass doesn't get discussed) is threatened and attempts to achieve cloture have failed.[37]

    Comon guys, lets at least bring a brain to the table...

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    They blocked democratic full control of congress...
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Post 1458:

    I see we are on step #4 today (Ssssspppppiiiiiinnnnn, with a little bit of #5, Make Personal Insult). Did you not read this statement?

    "BTW, just to ask to have the floor and then to go through the motions of denying takes up time."

    So that means IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT THE DEMOCRATS COULD PERFORM CLOTURE.


    Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the filibuster could be changed by majority vote, using the so-called nuclear option, also sometimes called the constitutional option by proponents. Even if a filibuster attempt is unsuccessful, the process takes floor time. In recent years the majority has preferred to avoid filibusters by moving to other business when a filibuster (This would mean the bill they are trying to pass doesn't get discussed) is threatened and attempts to achieve cloture have failed.[37]

    Comon guys, lets at least bring a brain to the table...

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    They blocked democratic full control of congress...
    "Your" President couldn't sell his economic policy to his own party when he had the 60 votes to do it and then you claimed that the Republicans took control of Congress in 2010. You really don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    "Your" President couldn't sell his economic policy to his own party when he had the 60 votes to do it and then you claimed that the Republicans took control of Congress in 2010. You really don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
    You have lost your mind:

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    Tell me when and where you see 60 democrats in the senate?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Leadership sold the policy because Democrats controlled the House. The Reagan Economic policy included the three year across the board tax cut that passed in August 1981, Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981
    The tax rate today is far lower than it was for those tax cuts already, so for him to match Reagan's tax policy means Obama would have to raise taxes and then incrementally lower them. Any other policy you'd like to discuss?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    You have lost your mind:

    111th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Tell me when and where you see 60 democrats in the senate?
    This is ridiculous, there were 60 Senators caucusing with the Democrats from January 2009 until Scott Brown took the Kennedy seat. I am still waiting for you to prove that Republicans took control of Congress in 2010

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    The tax rate today is far lower than it was for those tax cuts already, so for him to match Reagan's tax policy means Obama would have to raise taxes and then incrementally lower them. Any other policy you'd like to discuss?
    It is lower because of Bush tax cuts and govt. revenue grew until Democrats helped tank the economy in 2008

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This is ridiculous, there were 60 Senators caucusing with the Democrats from January 2009 until Scott Brown took the Kennedy seat. I am still waiting for you to prove that Republicans took control of Congress in 2010
    What purpose do you think the caucus serves? This should be good...

    Hint:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_caucus

    A congressional caucus is a group of members of the United States Congress that meets to pursue common legislative objectives.
    Last edited by Jryan; 10-25-11 at 06:52 PM.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, Reagan really screwed up, doubling GDP, creating 17 million jobs and increasing govt. revenue by 69% with the tax rate cuts
    and increasing the national debt by what percent?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Top marginal rate under Reagan was cut to 28%
    and Bush was forced to bring them back to 32%.

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