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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Thanks for an example of how Google works. I opened the FIRST result and it was a story about how 'BHO was the First president to filibuster a supreme court nomination', obviously when he was a senator. Thanks for the help...try again.
    Republican Obstruction at Work: Record Number of Filibusters | NEWS JUNKIE POST

    BTW, just to ask to have the floor and then to go through the motions of denying takes up time.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Republican Obstruction at Work: Record Number of Filibusters | NEWS JUNKIE POST

    BTW, just to ask to have the floor and then to go through the motions of denying takes up time.
    Right, the results of the Obama Administration are the responsibility of those evil Republicans?

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, the results of the Obama Administration are the responsibility of those evil Republicans?

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
    Yes if you block the senate, then you are blocking anything getting done.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Yes if you block the senate, then you are blocking anything getting done.
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    Here we go again, distortion and diversion. Obama had the Senate Democrat Caucus with 60 votes so I cannot help it if Obama cannot get the Democrat caucus to support his policies. I don't see one Democrat Policy that you claim was filibustered that I could support but you do ignore the policies that WERE implemented which should have been filibustered but weren't, Stimulus One and Obamacare. Never did Bush or Reagan have those overwhelming numbers that Obama had

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Republican Obstruction at Work: Record Number of Filibusters | NEWS JUNKIE POST

    BTW, just to ask to have the floor and then to go through the motions of denying takes up time.
    I don't get it...? My post stated that it was filibuster-proof UNTIL TED PASSED. Did you not see that? Is it your position that the 110th Congress was NOT filibuster-proof? Do you even know what filibuster means?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Yes if you block the senate, then you are blocking anything getting done.
    The problem that you seem to not get is that there were not enough DEMOCRATS who would vote UNIFORMLY to envolke cloture else they would have and thus 'over-ruled' the filibuster.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I don't get it...? My post stated that it was filibuster-proof UNTIL TED PASSED. Did you not see that? Is it your position that the 110th Congress was NOT filibuster-proof? Do you even know what filibuster means?
    GOP win in Mass. jolts Obama plans - USATODAY.com

    Brown will become the 41st Republican in the 100-seat Senate, breaking Democrats' filibuster-proof majority.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    I see we are on step #4 today (Ssssspppppiiiiiinnnnn, with a little bit of #5, Make Personal Insult). Did you not read this statement?

    "BTW, just to ask to have the floor and then to go through the motions of denying takes up time."

    So that means IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT THE DEMOCRATS COULD PERFORM CLOTURE.


    Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the filibuster could be changed by majority vote, using the so-called nuclear option, also sometimes called the constitutional option by proponents. Even if a filibuster attempt is unsuccessful, the process takes floor time. In recent years the majority has preferred to avoid filibusters by moving to other business when a filibuster (This would mean the bill they are trying to pass doesn't get discussed) is threatened and attempts to achieve cloture have failed.[37]

    Comon guys, lets at least bring a brain to the table...

    Filibuster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I see we are on step #4 today (Ssssspppppiiiiiinnnnn, with a little bit of #5, Make Personal Insult). Did you not read this statement?

    "BTW, just to ask to have the floor and then to go through the motions of denying takes up time."

    So that means IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT THE DEMOCRATS COULD PERFORM CLOTURE.


    Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the filibuster could be changed by majority vote, using the so-called nuclear option, also sometimes called the constitutional option by proponents. Even if a filibuster attempt is unsuccessful, the process takes floor time. In recent years the majority has preferred to avoid filibusters by moving to other business when a filibuster (This would mean the bill they are trying to pass doesn't get discussed) is threatened and attempts to achieve cloture have failed.[37]

    Comon guys, lets at least bring a brain to the table...

    Filibuster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Got it, Poor Obama couldn't get his own party to support some of his policies thus it is the Republicans' fault. Now let's ignore what Obama did get passed and the record he has generated, again of course all the Republicans' fault. Thanks for that incredible non partisan opinion

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Got it, Poor Obama couldn't get his own party to support some of his policies thus it is the Republicans' fault. Now let's ignore what Obama did get passed and the record he has generated, again of course all the Republicans' fault. Thanks for that incredible non partisan opinion
    Hint, there were never 60 Democrats, THEY COULDN'T PERFORM CLOTURE WITHOUT 60!!!!!!!!!! If I had to describe the discussion we are having here, I would start with this. Imagine a room full of mountaineers having a discussion. They can't even come to an agreement on whether their sport requires walking uphill and someone would begin to see the insanity of the conversation...

    Party
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    Total

    Democratic Independent Republican Vacant
    End of previous congress 48 2 49 99 1
    Begin 55 2 41 98 2
    January 15, 2009 56 99 1
    January 20, 2009 55 98 2
    January 26, 2009 56 99 1
    April 30, 2009 57 40
    July 7, 2009 58 100 0
    August 25, 2009 57 99 1
    September 9, 2009 39 98 2
    September 10, 2009 40 99 1
    September 25, 2009 58 100 0
    February 4, 2010 57 41
    June 28, 2010 56 99 1
    July 16, 2010 57 100 0
    November 29, 2010 56 42
    Final voting share 58% 42%
    Beginning of the next Congress 51 2 47 100 0
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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