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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Why? Because he couldn't sell his own party and had to have some democrats support the Republicans. When did Reagan or Bush have the overwhelming numbers that Obama had?

    What amazes me is that you seem too support the Obama record yet ignore the costs to generate that record
    What amazes me is that you if Obama was like Reagan we'd be out of this recession, but you can't name one policy that Reagan implemented that helped.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I thought they did implement a policy. Spend 1 trillion dollars and ram health care down our throats. I just don't think the policy worked.
    That is true, when the problem was the economy and jobs they implemented Obamacare which is a great job destroyer. No small employer is going to hire anyone until Obamacare is repealed

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    If it was filibuster proof, then why did he get filibustered on multiple occasions? Here is a google search of "Obama Filibuster 2009". Also, what policies are you referring to that Reagan passed that aided the economy that Obama did not?
    Thanks for an example of how Google works. I opened the FIRST result and it was a story about how 'BHO was the First president to filibuster a supreme court nomination', obviously when he was a senator. Thanks for the help...try again.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    What amazes me is that you if Obama was like Reagan we'd be out of this recession, but you can't name one policy that Reagan implemented that helped.
    If Obama had any private sector or leadership skills, yes we would be growing today and out of the recession. The Reagan economic policy was centered around the tax rate cuts of 25% over three years. That showed the American people he believed in them and the results speak for themselves.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If Obama had any private sector or leadership skills, yes we would be growing today and out of the recession. The Reagan economic policy was centered around the tax rate cuts of 25% over three years. That showed the American people he believed in them and the results speak for themselves.
    The top marginal rate under Reagan was 70%. That is not true today!

    On top of that the federal government has more obligations today

    The aging of the population and increases in per-person costs throughout the U.S. health care system (in both the public and private sectors) will increase the cost of meeting longstanding federal commitments to seniors and people with disabilities. Together, these factors will drive up spending for the three largest domestic programs — Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Limiting total federal spending to 21 percent of GDP despite these developments would have enormous implications for those programs as well as the rest of government.
    The federal government’s responsibilities have grown since 2000, with developments at home and abroad pushing spending above the average for earlier decades. These responsibilities include homeland security (in the aftermath of September 11, 2001​); aid to veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars (many of whom need health care and income support); education (with the federal government providing more resources to improve educational quality and outcomes); the Medicare prescription drug benefit (which Congress added in 2003); and health reform (which extends health coverage to tens of millions of Americans who would otherwise be uninsured and will increase federal spending, even though it will reduce the deficit).
    Spending for interest on the federal government’s debt also will be substantially higher in coming decades than it was during the past 40 years. By the end of 2010 — largely as a result of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the large Bush-era tax cuts, and the current severe recession — debt held by the public will be nearly twice as large (as a percentage of GDP) as in 2001, with a commensurate increase in interest costs.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3246
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly, thus the Obama policies were passed as you pointed out I believe in February 2009 whereas Reagan didn't get his policies passed until August 1981 which is the final quarter of fiscal year 1981 something liberals don't understand. Reagan had zero impact on fiscal year 1981 whereas Obama had half of fiscal year 2009 to implement his policies which his Administration would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%
    You are missing another fine point, that I'm sure our 'left' folks will just love me to make. The 'economic policy' ideas that BHO got passed were mere continuations of the Bush administrations. BHO has had no NEW ideas...yet, thus solidifying your 'failed administration' position. Further the latest news about the exit from Iraq is just as outlined by the Bush administration prior to 2009, again continuing the previous policies.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The top marginal rate under Reagan was 70%. That is not true today!
    Top marginal rate under Reagan was cut to 28%

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If Obama had any private sector or leadership skills, yes we would be growing today and out of the recession. The Reagan economic policy was centered around the tax rate cuts of 25% over three years. That showed the American people he believed in them and the results speak for themselves.
    So you have no reason for believing what you believe? Ok, sounds good.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You are missing another fine point, that I'm sure our 'left' folks will just love me to make. The 'economic policy' ideas that BHO got passed were mere continuations of the Bush administrations. BHO has had no NEW ideas...yet, thus solidifying your 'failed administration' position. Further the latest news about the exit from Iraq is just as outlined by the Bush administration prior to 2009, again continuing the previous policies.
    Now there you go again, ignoring the really big contribution to the current economy, all those Czars Obama created. Obama shows he believes leadership is dictating and growing the size of govt. instead of actually motivating and encouraging a private sector. Reagan knew it, Obama doesn't have a clue

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The top marginal rate under Reagan was 70%. That is not true today!
    That's true...from January 20, 1981 until August 4, 1981...a whole seven month...Whooo Hooo...good point.

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