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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It really is a shame, doubt that the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans are laughing.
    My point had nothing to do with laughing about unemployed or underemployed people anywhere. I was laughing at the tit for tat. But if you couldn't see that, well then you are blind. Thanks for taking my comment out of context.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    How did I show my "inability go do research?" when I post numbers, I give people verifiable links instead of "(bls.gov)"

    I keep going back to the Reagan FIT as it proves you are a liar.
    If you are going to talk context then practice what you preach.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    My point had nothing to do with laughing about unemployed or underemployed people anywhere. I was laughing at the tit for tat. But if you couldn't see that, well then you are blind. Thanks for taking my comment out of context.
    Then read what you post before hitting the enter key. How will your words be interpreted by others?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Then read what you post before hitting the enter key. How will your words be interpreted by others?
    Correctly, except by you. In fact, my words were extremely simple. Much like yourself.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Just a reminder related to B/O's promises to create jobs. First he promised that the stimulus would be spent immediately to create shovel ready jobs, building bridges, roads - they even spent a few million tax dollars putting up signs near road jobs-, but only a few weeks ago B/O laughed with his progressive friends and said that there weren't really any shovel ready jobs, the money went to union member employed by the federal and local governments.

    Much of the stimulus money is already back in the dem campaign coffers ready to do progressive things to our country.

    Why would a Republican vote for more spending when B/O took money under false pretenses and gave it to his friends? The people that he propped up with the big stimulus need more money to keep their employment going.

    Giving federal tax dollars to local police, firefighters, and teachers is crazy. The teachers have failed to teach, the police beat every black person who dares go out at night and the firefighters will strike for more pay and burn your house down if you can't raise the money to pay them

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Since you weren't around during the Reagan term or were too young guess that is what I would expect from the liberal education you are receiving today. Recession began in July 1981 so what economic policy did Reagan have in place and passed by Congress to generate those numbers? Reagan economic policy wasn't passed until the fourth qtr of 1981 so of course he is responsible for everything prior to that right? That seems to be liberal logic. I know this is hard for you to understand but the recession ended in November 1982 which is the first quarter of fiscal year 1983. Hard for a liberal to understand so take notes

    Fiscal year of the United States runs from October 1 to September 30. See if you can put those results into proper context.
    It's not even the same type of recession! Look at those unemployment numbers! They aren't even close. Also:

    http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1985/08/art2full.pdf
    The international array of unemployment rates underwent some major changes in rankings in the late 1970's to early 1980's
    The teenage-to-adult unemployment ratio also narrowed steadily between 1980 and 1983 in all countries studied except Italy and Sweden .
    That's a positive trend that started before he became president.

    In the United States, the number of persons working part time for economic reasons (persons on reduced hours as well as persons employed in part-time jobs who want fulltime work) rose between 1980 and 1983 .
    That's a positive trend that started before he became president.

    Joblessness in the United States rose steadily from 1980 through the end of 1982 . The unemployment rate peaked in the fourth quarter of 1982 at 10 .6 percent, the highest quarterly rate recorded in the post-World War II era. At the beginning of 1983, joblessness began moving downward
    Oh, look, the rate rose from 1980 - not mid 1981 - until the fourth quarter of 1982. That's from 1980 until October of 1982.

    And wouldn't you know, unemployment really began to rise in this recession in Jan 2008 and hit its peak in Nov of 2010. Wow, Obama took one extra month in a decidedly worse recession.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    It's not even the same type of recession! Look at those unemployment numbers! They aren't even close. Also:

    http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1985/08/art2full.pdf

    That's a positive trend that started before he became president.

    That's a positive trend that started before he became president.

    Oh, look, the rate rose from 1980 - not mid 1981 - until the fourth quarter of 1982. That's from 1980 until October of 1982.

    And wouldn't you know, unemployment really began to rise in this recession in Jan 2008 and hit its peak in Nov of 2010. Wow, Obama took one extra month in a decidedly worse recession.
    Nice spin and again out of context. Try thinking about the economic conditions would have affected you had you been living during that period of time, inflation, interest rates, and rising unemployment. The misery index was 19.33 when Obama took office and rose due to the fact that the Reagan economic plan wasn't implemented until the first qtr of fiscal year 1982 something you want to ignore. How would you like paying 17.5% home interest rates? How would you like paying high inflation rates for everything you bought? The American people were hurt a lot more by the economy that Reagan inherited than the economy that Obama helped create and the results are quite different as well. Reagan ended up creating 17 million jobs and had a net job growth two years after the recession ended. Obama has a net job loss two years after the end of the recession

    That is reality

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Nice spin and again out of context. Try thinking about the economic conditions would have affected you had you been living during that period of time, inflation, interest rates, and rising unemployment. The misery index was 19.33 when Obama took office and rose due to the fact that the Reagan economic plan wasn't implemented until the first qtr of fiscal year 1982 something you want to ignore. How would you like paying 17.5% home interest rates? How would you like paying high inflation rates for everything you bought? The American people were hurt a lot more by the economy that Reagan inherited than the economy that Obama helped create and the results are quite different as well. Reagan ended up creating 17 million jobs and had a net job growth two years after the recession ended. Obama has a net job loss two years after the end of the recession

    That is reality
    Blah, blah blah. By the way:

    http://www.innlightmarketing.com/rec...Recessions.pdf
    Early 1980s recession 1980–1982 2 year
    The Iranian Revolution sharply increased the
    price of oil around the world in 1979, causing
    the 1979 energy crisis. This was caused by the
    new regime in power in Iran, which exported oil
    at inconsistent intervals and at a lower volume,
    forcing prices to go up. Tight monetary policy
    in the United States to control inflation led to
    another recession. The changes were made
    largely because of inflation that was carried
    over from the previous decade due to the 1973
    oil crisis and the 1979 energy crisis
    Please explain how that crisis is similar to what Obama faced, and what policies Reagan put into place, why he put them into place, what they did to help the economy, and what Obama should have done as well. Also, how is my post out of context when it shows that it took each recession the same amount of time to hit its peak in unemployment rates?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Blah, blah blah. By the way:

    http://www.innlightmarketing.com/rec...Recessions.pdf
    Early 1980s recession 1980–1982 2 year


    Please explain how that crisis is similar to what Obama faced, and what policies Reagan put into place, why he put them into place, what they did to help the economy, and what Obama should have done as well.
    Obama is blaming the Arab Spring and other world events as a reason his economic policies haven't produced the results promised. Reagan took charge and changed the attitude of the American people. That is leadership, something liberals don't understand.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post


    Oh, look, the rate rose from 1980 - not mid 1981 - until the fourth quarter of 1982. That's from 1980 until October of 1982.

    And wouldn't you know, unemployment really began to rise in this recession in Jan 2008 and hit its peak in Nov of 2010. Wow, Obama took one extra month in a decidedly worse recession.
    Something that Reagan did inherit from Carter was an increase in private sector employment:

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    74671 74752 74910 75016 75088 75323 75419 75448 75440 75302 75084 74811


    This is not the case going from Bush 43 to the Obama Presidency.

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