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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Uh, yeah ... I don't think so ...


    Americans, unlike the Senate, approve of Obama’s jobs bill, poll says

    Nearly two-thirds of the respondents to a survey from NBC/Wall Street Journal voiced their approval when pollsters were told them the details of the president's "American Jobs Act"-- including that it would cut payroll taxes, fund new road construction, and extend unemployment benefits. NBC reports that 63 percent of respondents said they favored the bill, with just 32 percent opposing it.


    ... anything else you wanna make up?
    Either the Republicans pass or it becomes a campaign issue. The President is playing hardball.


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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I'm sorry, I didn't hear the constructive ideas from the loyal opposition. Is that because they have no ideas, nor are the particularly loyal to America either? Hard to believe we have an entire political party that is willing to put the welfare of America at risk just so they can return to power. The entire Republican party should be rounded up and shot as traitors.
    I have a feeling you wouldn't like the results if we turned our political disputes into a gun battle. this country would have been off if FDR had been executed as a traitor in 1933 though



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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Seek out professional mental counseling before it's too late.
    I was sort of hoping he'd try to round up those republicans. The secret service would cure his problems permanently I suspect



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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    From what I can tell, that was first reported by the BBC, which made the claim without naming a single Senator who said that -- and then the BCC pulled that part out of their article just 2 hours after they first released it.

    'Republicans block Obama jobs bill' diff viewer (2/3) - News Sniffer
    Means nothing. It's right in the article posted here. As noted over and over, not a single Senator (other than the twisted armed Reid) signed on to it.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    What I'm reading is that you wish to spin things. When the poll asked about individual portions people supported those things. WHen asked about the bill in general, like most people, they had no idea what was actually in it so they couldn't say.

    But the numbers for the bill only spike when Americans learn about its provisions in some detail. When NBC pollsters asked for a simple up-or-down appraisal of the bill, minus any policy details, the same group of respondents expressed less than half the level of support that they later showed. "When asked simply if Congress should pass the legislation or not, 30 percent of respondents answer yes, while 22 percent say no; 44 percent have no opinion," according to NBC.

    Some detail..........What details? Anything about none of the tax increases going to the deficit? About how it would further harm S.S.?

    Imagine this.

    But when the legislation's details are included in a follow-up question -- that it would cut payroll taxes, fund new road construction, extend unemployment benefits, and that it would be paid for by increasing taxes on the wealthy -- 63 percent say they favor the bill and 32 percent oppose it.

    They tell them about what they see as a positive and people are for it. Never mind that was only part of the bill. Why the deceit to make a point if it was so popular?
    When informed what's in the bill, 63% were for it.

    What were they told was in it?

    • it would cut payroll taxes
    • it would fund new road construction
    • it would extend unemployment benefits
    • it would be paid for by increasing taxes on the wealthy

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post

    Means nothing. It's right in the article posted here. As noted over and over, not a single Senator (other than the twisted armed Reid) signed on to it.
    The BBC retracted that part of the story. You can't even find it in their current version. The BBC no longer supports that even though you cling to it.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Either the Republicans pass or it becomes a campaign issue. The President is playing hardball.
    Let's see how this plays out....

    Obama: The Republicans blocked my bill that would have fed the world and cured cancer.

    GOP candidate: Many Dems in the Senate said that there is no way they would have voted to pass it. Very similiar to your budget that was voted down 0-98.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The BBC retracted that part of the story. You can't even find it in their current version. The BBC no longer supports that even though you cling to it.
    But yet you can find it in this article. Something that you say can't even be found now takes precedent over something right in the article posted here? LOL

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Did 100% of the Dems vote for it? How supportive was Reid? The Dems know this is a POS because it raises taxes and some of these Dems Senators are up for reelection.
    About 95% of the Dems voted for it. Are you trying to say that there is no support for a measure unless the vote is unanimous?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    An implicit promise was made every time BO mentioned that projection in a speech as the justification to pass the Porkulus I bill. I could do a Lexis/Nexis search to find those quotes but lack the desire to spend an additional minute of time on this matter.
    Oh, it was "an implicit promise"!!
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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