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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Where are you on Conservative's unsourced nonstop cut & pastes garbage? lol
    I found all his stuff as he provided the source. So far his data has checked to the number but still some are left to search out. I'm afraid that some of your's doesn't quite match some of the data I found but maybe BEA, UST and BLS do not reflect your data.

    Again, source please.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Who is silly?
    You are for suggesting we tax people more if they make more than $25,000 a year.


    Why? Because three planes flew into three buildings...
    How did that result in stocks falling?

    No, employing more and paying them by taken from others does not increase revenue but merely redistributes it.
    Exactly, it redistributes it so that consumers have enough money to be consumers vs the redistribution over the last 30 years from the middle class to the rich, which has only resulted in higher debt and a lower standard of living for the middle class

    What is the definition of the 'revenue' that you speak of?
    The tax revenues taken in by the government.

    What product does the government produce that is valuble to the market?
    All the infrastructure and services the rich utilize to create wealth.

    The question still remains...how would you pay for this increase in public employees? We are already overspending.
    Just as outlined in the American Jobs Act, by eliminating the tax breaks for the wealthy. It does not increase our debt by a penny.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are for suggesting we tax people more if they make more than $25,000 a year.
    No, merely inquiring how one defines 'rich'. If it is 'not poor, i.e. in poverty' then yes, the low end of the bracket is around $25k/yr.

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    How did that result in stocks falling?
    You missed the point. A reaction, or 'over-reaction' requires an intitial action. Would the market have fallen if the planes had NOT hit the building?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Exactly, it redistributes it so that consumers have enough money to be consumers vs the redistribution over the last 30 years from the middle class to the rich, which has only resulted in higher debt and a lower standard of living for the middle class
    HUH? You take from consumers via taxation then create new employees, give them the taken money and the consumers have more??? How does that work? The rich are going to get theirs as the BANKING system is gamed for them to capitalize on it. The 'poor' can also if they tried. But your supposition to correct this is to hire more government employees is misdirected resources.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    All the infrastructure and services the rich utilize to create wealth.
    Do the 'rich' have exclusive rights to the infrastructure? Aren't all those who use infrastructure ABLE to use it to create wealth?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Just as outlined in the American Jobs Act, by eliminating the tax breaks for the wealthy. It does not increase our debt by a penny.
    Have you read the AJA? Specifically the revenue tables that TRY to justify the 'does not increase our debt by a penny'? How about the CBO reveiew of said act? Or more specifically the caveats used to substantiate the position?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I found all his stuff as he provided the source. So far his data has checked to the number but still some are left to search out. I'm afraid that some of your's doesn't quite match some of the data I found but maybe BEA, UST and BLS do not reflect your data.

    Again, source please.
    I think you are touch confused. You were talking to someone else about their sources. If you want my sources you'll find them in this post. And unlike Conservative's, you'll find them exactly where I linked them. No hunting. No deception. Right there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I think you are touch confused. You were talking to someone else about their sources. If you want my sources you'll find them in this post. And unlike Conservative's, you'll find them exactly where I linked them. No hunting. No deception. Right there.
    You seem to be one of the few that doesn't understand how to use BLS but have no problem copying and pasting a chart from a leftwing website that doesn't tell the who story. Private sector growth hasn't been enough to create more private sector jobs than what Obama inherited and in fact is still 1.6 million less. Apparently spending trillions of taxpayer money to generate a net job loss is a good thing for you if that trend is up almost 3 years later.

    Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Click on private sector jobs and the go to the bottom and click on retrieve data. get your wife to help you if you cannot figure it out. My 11 year old granddaughter figured it out so I am sure that one of America's finest can do it as well.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem to be one of the few that doesn't understand how to use BLS but have no problem copying and pasting a chart from a leftwing website that doesn't tell the who story. Private sector growth hasn't been enough to create more private sector jobs than what Obama inherited and in fact is still 1.6 million less. Apparently spending trillions of taxpayer money to generate a net job loss is a good thing for you if that trend is up almost 3 years later.

    Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Click on private sector jobs and the go to the bottom and click on retrieve data. get your wife to help you if you cannot figure it out. My 11 year old granddaughter figured it out so I am sure that one of America's finest can do it as well.
    BLS is the source. You don't want to believe it but, too bad so sad. You are misleading people with non-historic data so that you can saddle Obama with all the ills regardless of the trends. Just like it would be wrong to do what you are doing and apply it to Bush in 2001 after he inherited the dot-com bubble burst. You fail at providing context in your zeal for trying to fix the facts around your desire to blame Obama for everything. The charts show you what has happened over time. Something you refuse to acknowledge because you want to say, "It's 2011 and Obama is president therefore it is all Obama's fault." The ultimate fail in context and honesty.

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    Last edited by poweRob; 10-24-11 at 11:29 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    First... Marxist president. You are deluded with hate.
    Or perhaps I can see quite clearly. No delusion. But I do hope for the Marxist president's political destruction.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Second... You speculate that the jobs lost on Obama's first month, before he could make any policies and have those policies make have any effect is still his fault because you pulled out of your ass "100,000 may have lost them because he was elected."
    People change their behavior very quickly in the face of danger. You, perhaps, have experienced this.

    I make the observation that the spike in job loss coincides with the election of the Marxist president. Are you disputing that the first really large increase (over 700,000 jobs lost) occurred in the month he was elected?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You're boy Bush was a total economic failure as was his dad.
    Well, maybe. Some presidents preside over wartime situations and the economy take a back seat. Net 3 million jobs over 8 years? And we compare this to a net job loss under the one term Marxist president?
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Or perhaps I can see quite clearly. No delusion. But I do hope for the Marxist president's political destruction.
    Clearly more than you hope for the health of the country. Like I said insane hatred leads you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    People change their behavior very quickly in the face of danger. You, perhaps, have experienced this.

    I make the observation that the spike in job loss coincides with the election of the Marxist president. Are you disputing that the first really large increase (over 700,000 jobs lost) occurred in the month he was elected.
    I never disputed the massive drops in jobs. Never. You are making ridiculous assumptions based on no facts and you expect people to buy it solely because you want to blame Obama. It is beyond laughable.

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    There you go. Now you can see what happened. Economies are not exactly nimble enough to turn around on a dime unfortunately so your asinine statement that all that huge slide of Bush's loss of jobs should have all the sudden been fixed on January 20, 2009 is absurd at best. BTW Mr. Blame Obama... that january spike... 20 days of it was Bush, 11 days of it was Obama. LOL!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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