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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
    It seems you have a difficult time understanding data, let me help you:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-u...post1059891740
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Go back to my statement. Did I, in any way, shape, or form, try and defend Obama? No. There you go again, copy and pasting said numbers.
    Said numbers ARE the Obama record and said record WILL be on the ballot in 2012. For someone who doesn't support Obama you sure resort to a lot of name calling and diversion from that record. No one has refuted the data posted showing the Obama record and yet all the Obama supporters attack me personally instead of trying to refute that data. It is what it is regardless of what you claim is someone refuting the data. Why do you buy what someone else says instead of finding out for yourself. You took great pride in proving that the FIT revenue didn't actually double during the Reagan years although it went up considerably yet you have yet to do the same research on the Obama record. Why is that?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    It seems you have a difficult time understanding data, let me help you:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-u...post1059891740

    Liberals and socialists always have to stick together as one buys what the other says without doing any research to verify the information posted. Let me help you understanding something very basic, liberals here and liberalism in general are making you look foolish. It is ok to trust but you better verify. I posted the charts showing that there has been a net private sector job loss and yet you buy what was posted without even checking the data. Anyone can post graphs out of context and it seems because it came from another liberal you bought it. The actual data doesn't say what you think it says, it shows trends but not the end result. I assure you that if you generated the results that Obama has after spending as much as he has spent you would be fired.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
    you have no answer for catawba, no way to refute what he posted, so instead, back to the same ol' same ol'....pathetic

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Liberals and socialists always have to stick together as one buys what the other says without doing any research to verify the information posted. Let me help you understanding something very basic, liberals here and liberalism in general are making you look foolish. It is ok to trust but you better verify. I posted the charts showing that there has been a net private sector job loss and yet you buy what was posted without even checking the data. Anyone can post graphs out of context and it seems because it came from another liberal you bought it. The actual data doesn't say what you think it says, it shows trends but not the end result. I assure you that if you generated the results that Obama has after spending as much as he has spent you would be fired.
    Most people when someone says their data is wrong comes back and writes why their data is right. You have merely fallen back to your five steps, I'll highlight which step you are on:

    1) Cut
    2) Paste
    3) Get Debunked
    4) Ssssssspppppiiiiiinnnnn
    5) Make Personal Insult
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Said numbers ARE the Obama record and said record WILL be on the ballot in 2012. For someone who doesn't support Obama you sure resort to a lot of name calling and diversion from that record. No one has refuted the data posted showing the Obama record and yet all the Obama supporters attack me personally instead of trying to refute that data. It is what it is regardless of what you claim is someone refuting the data. Why do you buy what someone else says instead of finding out for yourself. You took great pride in proving that the FIT revenue didn't actually double during the Reagan years although it went up considerably yet you have yet to do the same research on the Obama record. Why is that?
    No, I didn't have to do "research" on Reagan not doubling the FIT revenue. That took elementary math skills to say "Conservative says FIT revenues doubled during Reagan. Given X and then multiplying it by 2 does not equal what was stated. Hence, you are a liar.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Most people when someone says their data is wrong comes back and writes why their data is right. You have merely fallen back to your five steps, I'll highlight which step you are on:

    1) Cut
    2) Paste
    3) Get Debunked
    4) Ssssssspppppiiiiiinnnnn
    5) Make Personal Insult
    it's all you can do when you don't have ****.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Most people when someone says their data is wrong comes back and writes why their data is right. You have merely fallen back to your five steps, I'll highlight which step you are on:

    1) Cut
    2) Paste
    3) Get Debunked
    4) Ssssssspppppiiiiiinnnnn
    5) Make Personal Insult
    You seem to have selective reading skills as well as comprehension. I have responded to the data in that so called post that refuted the Obama record which of course it didn't. I welcome you doing the research and verifying if I posted anything inaccurate or out of context. You see, trends don't really matter until those trends generate positive job growth and deficit reduction. Trends weren't very good when Bush took over from Clinton either but see what happened in 2003 to 2007 and Bush didn't add 4.2 trillion to the debt to generate those numbers. Suggest you go to the sites, research the sites, and then come back after proving me wrong. Just think what a hero you would be to other liberals here.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    No, I didn't have to do "research" on Reagan not doubling the FIT revenue. That took elementary math skills to say "Conservative says FIT revenues doubled during Reagan. Given X and then multiplying it by 2 does not equal what was stated. Hence, you are a liar.
    Is that the best you can do? Just think of what a hero you would be by proving me wrong on the data that I have posted showing the Obama record? Wow, you would be a legend. You know what the problem is however? The data posted is 100% accurate and in fact some here that challenged the data all of a sudden became quiet when they did research the sites and the data. Instead you want to make this personal andd make me the issue. Liberals like you have to use the politics of personal destruction and try to destroy me when it is the record that matters, not me.

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it's all you can do when you don't have ****.
    Hey, take your best shot, prove the numbers I have posted are wrong?

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

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