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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Example: the linked graph shows the Dow Jones Average since 1900. Obviously, the DOW is not the only indicator of economic or Presidential success, but it's part of the picture. In 1980 Reagan inherited about 15 years of going nowhere. Then, 3/4's of the way through his first term, things started climbing rapidly and didn't stop until the tech stock bubble burst in the last year or so of the Clinton administration (followed shortly by 9/11). So, Reagan gets credit for incredible financial gain. Bush1 didn't last long in office, but nobody blames him for much economically because prosperity continued. Clinton is credited, too, because growth continued under his watch (again, until the last year). Then, starting in Clinton's last year it trended downward severely until 2002 when it headed up again.

    So, the DOW turned around under Bush2's 1st term and he was re-elected. Things tanked the last year of his term (similar to Clinton's), and now it's turning around again.

    The problem is that it takes awhile for prosperity to return even after the DOW recovers. President Reagan, Bush, and Clinton are all ok with everyone because they prospered (despite the downward trend starting under Clinton). Bush gets bashed because people didn't really get back to prosperity, and Obama will get bashed too if the DOW doesn't get back up to where it was when he took office and continue to sustain growth.
    Well this is a very narrow view of our national economy.... Its like looking through a pinhole trying to see the big picture

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Conservatives don't believe that allowing people to keep more of their own money is an expense to the govt. but it is class warfare. Conservatives believe that healthcare insurance is a personal responsibility and know that the single payer system has failed all over the world.....
    shortened post as to just give a general reference

    Well, I tried... Conservative you are hopeless

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    shortened post as to just give a general reference

    Well, I tried... Conservative you are hopeless
    Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
    what door?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    shortened post as to just give a general reference

    Well, I tried... Conservative you are hopeless
    Do you believe keeping more of your own money is an expense to the govt? How is asking that question making me hopeless? Name for me one country in the world where a single payer has reduced healthcare costs, improved the question of healthcare, and thus successful?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you believe keeping more of your own money is an expense to the govt? How is asking that question making me hopeless? Name for me one country in the world where a single payer has reduced healthcare costs, improved the question of healthcare, and thus successful?
    1. No.
    2. it doesn't, you not recognizing that I was describing debate strategy does.
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    1. No.
    2. it doesn't, you not recognizing that I was describing debate strategy does.
    3 Taiwan
    So if you keeping more of your money isn't an expense to the govt. then why do tax cuts have to be paid for? That is the liberal spin and you only have to pay for expenses

    My debate style is to confuse liberals with facts, logic, and common sense

    Taiwan? Does Taiwan have over 310 million people with the geography we have in this country today as well as the choices we have that affect individual health? Healthcare is a personal responsibility best handled in the individual state, not a one size fits all which a single payer promotes. There is no way that a bureaucrat in D.C. can manage a healthcare program in Chicago for example and that is the issue nationwide

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So if you keeping more of your money isn't an expense to the govt. then why do tax cuts have to be paid for? That is the liberal spin and you only have to pay for expenses

    My debate style is to confuse liberals with facts, logic, and common sense

    Taiwan? Does Taiwan have over 310 million people with the geography we have in this country today as well as the choices we have that affect individual health? Healthcare is a personal responsibility best handled in the individual state, not a one size fits all which a single payer promotes. There is no way that a bureaucrat in D.C. can manage a healthcare program in Chicago for example and that is the issue nationwide
    Fine I will play your silly game...

    1. They don't technically nether do government expenditures, your boy Cheney said it best Debt doesn't matter
    2. What you just described is deception not debate..... they are mutually exclusive
    3. Can you please point to the population requirement in you original question.... oh wait you can't it wasn't there.... can you point to the requirement that it must have the same geography.... no that's right you cant it wasn't there.

    your exact quote:
    Do you believe keeping more of your own money is an expense to the govt? How is asking that question making me hopeless? Name for me one country in the world where a single payer has reduced healthcare costs, improved the question of healthcare, and thus successful?
    See population requirement.... no.
    See geographical requirement.... no.

    Are you a retard.... yes.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Fine I will play your silly game...

    1. They don't technically nether do government expenditures, your boy Cheney said it best Debt doesn't matter
    2. What you just described is deception not debate..... they are mutually exclusive
    3. Can you please point to the population requirement in you original question.... oh wait you can't it wasn't there.... can you point to the requirement that it must have the same geography.... no that's right you cant it wasn't there.

    your exact quote:


    See population requirement.... no.
    See geographical requirement.... no.

    Are you a retard.... yes.
    Earlier you were attempting to lecture others on how to debate. Apparently you left "insult" off your list.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    1. No.
    2. it doesn't, you not recognizing that I was describing debate strategy does.
    3 Taiwan
    Taiwan does not have the huge largesse class that we do, looking always for more free stuff.

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