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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmm the result is we xame back from at its lowest a -9% GDP and losing 750k jobs per month at its worst.
    Are you suggesting that we would have kept losing 750K jobs per month ? That the recession would have kept auguring into the depths of Hell had not Obama been elected ? Do you have any idea how completely and utterly stupid such notions are ?

    We could have elected Mr Potato Head and the recession would have bottomed out. Trouble is, with Obama, it stayed there. Where is Mr. Potato Head when you need him for Chrissakes ?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    That is complete BS ! WTF is a "liberal value" ? Show me where the Founders embodied a "liberal value" in the Constitution !!!
    PB thinks opposing a monarchy and a centralized government that taxed people too much is the same as pushing for a more centralized federal government with more taxes



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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Are you suggesting that we would have kept losing 750K jobs per month ? That the recession would have kept auguring into the depths of Hell had not Obama been elected ? Do you have any idea how completely and utterly stupid such notions are ?

    We could have elected Mr Potato Head and the recession would have bottomed out. Trouble is, with Obama, it stayed there. Where is Mr. Potato Head when you need him for Chrissakes ?
    A lot of economists do think it would have been a lot worse without the bailouts and stimulus. I do not know that any of you have posted any better ideas to fix the economy, and yet most of you are in here wanting to hang Obama because he inherited a recession.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Have you been napping ? Obama had majorities in both Houses, to include 60 Senators. He got enough rope. He hung himself already.

    Jeeezus Christ you folks are delusional. Obama sucks as President. Admit it !
    And during that time he had to triage the economy then spent the rest of the time on health care legislation.... you can argue that it was the wrong priority to tackle but that was what he used his near super-majority for.
    (58 if you include the independents that still caucused with the Democrats) source
    and during this time the filibuster was in fact the standard tactic for each and every proposal put forth by either the white house or the democratic caucus

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    A lot of economists do think it would have been a lot worse without the bailouts and stimulus. I do not know that any of you have posted any better ideas to fix the economy, and yet most of you are in here wanting to hang Obama because he inherited a recession.
    What is the excuse for the numbers today over two years AFTER the end of the recession? As you pointed out, GDP Growth was pretty good right after the recession ended with close to 4% growth yet that growth dropped every quarter and is now under 2% with the Obama economic policy and record low interest rates. Why can't you admit that Obama's economic policies are a complete failure?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    A lot of economists do think it would have been a lot worse without the bailouts and stimulus.
    And a lot don't ! Look around ... where are we gaining ground ? Looks to me like we pissed away a trillion bucks. Last time we had a recession where the President stepped all over his dick doing the wrong stuff to fix it was FDR turning that recession into the Great Depression.

    Try again. Give me Mr. Potato Head any day. Your guy sucks worse than Bush, and that is nothing to crow about.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    And during that time he had to triage the economy then spent the rest of the time on health care legislation.... you can argue that it was the wrong priority to tackle but that was what he used his near super-majority for.
    (58 if you include the independents that still caucused with the Democrats) source
    and during this time the filibuster was in fact the standard tactic for each and every proposal put forth by either the white house or the democratic caucus
    Cut the crap. Obama got everything he wanted. He had the Florida flim-flam, Cornhusker Kickback, and Louisiana Purchase to ensure he got all he wanted. And half a bil for Solyndra and other wasted rat-holes.

    Forget what I argue., The numbers today suck. Obama is a fail. Biden is a jackass. You need a whole new team libs, cause this crew really sucks.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    And a lot don't ! Look around ... where are we gaining ground ? Looks to me like we pissed away a trillion bucks. Last time we had a recession where the President stepped all over his dick doing the wrong stuff to fix it was FDR turning that recession into the Great Depression.

    Try again. Give me Mr. Potato Head any day. Your guy sucks worse than Bush, and that is nothing to crow about.
    Wow, man, you have given the term "non sequitur" a whole new level. Nice job. Anyway, you're right, a lot don't. I agree. Some think that it was necessary, and some don't. As soon as he swore in, I think Obama knew he had to make a choice between two options:

    1) Do nothing and hope the economy corrects itself
    2) Invest in the economy and help the economy corrects itself much quicker

    If he chooses number 2, the worst that can happen is the economy is slow to recover and republicans say he wasted money. If he chooses number 1, the worst that can happen is the economy completely tanks and both republicans and liberals blame him for doing nothing. The obvious option is number 2, as the conservative base will be upset with whatever choice he makes, he might as well do what he knows his base will approve of.

    And how you say he is worse than Bush, I don't know. It's a pretty inane comment to make, since Obama hasn't even finished 4 years yet.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    And a lot don't ! Look around ... where are we gaining ground ? Looks to me like we pissed away a trillion bucks. Last time we had a recession where the President stepped all over his dick doing the wrong stuff to fix it was FDR turning that recession into the Great Depression.

    Try again. Give me Mr. Potato Head any day. Your guy sucks worse than Bush, and that is nothing to crow about.
    bolded the part I am referring to.
    A quick google search for economists that believe the stimulus left us worse off than we would have been without it only really returns op-ed pieces.... can you steer me to specific economist that make this claim so I can research it? I don't need links I can look it up myself.... just names please... than you in advance.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    And a lot don't ! Look around ... where are we gaining ground ? Looks to me like we pissed away a trillion bucks. Last time we had a recession where the President stepped all over his dick doing the wrong stuff to fix it was FDR turning that recession into the Great Depression.

    Try again. Give me Mr. Potato Head any day. Your guy sucks worse than Bush, and that is nothing to crow about.
    Please list the credible economists that fit this bill. I really doubt you can come up with more than two. Also tell me what led to the end of the Great Depression ended.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 10-22-11 at 11:56 PM.

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