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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    Stop while you are behind. Do you know the procedure for amending the Constitution?
    Is it? :

    Obama economic results in 2011,
    .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
    25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
    2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
    4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
    Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
    38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    You can demonize Bush all you want for not doing a good job while President, but that does not change the fact that Obama has only made it worse. Obama is so in over his head, so inept, and had all his initiatives be such colossal failures .............. the only question is when do liberals finally realize he was a mistake ? A giant mistake.
    Seems that is what they all want to do and that only is an attempt to divert from the failure that Obama is. They just cannot admit that Obama has made a fool of them and will never admit that the choice of Obama was a mistake.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    You can demonize Bush all you want for not doing a good job while President, but that does not change the fact that Obama has only made it worse. Obama is so in over his head, so inept, and had all his initiatives be such colossal failures .............. the only question is when do liberals finally realize he was a mistake ? A giant mistake.
    It's compare and contrast. I never actually said Bush was a bad president for posting the same numbers, I am just pointing out that he did. If one president posts a "bad GDP growth" and it makes him a poor leader, then shouldn't that hold true for any other president?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Definition of a Political Hack


    If you use one number to make one president look bad, but then defend another president who posted the same number who happens to be of the same party as you, then you might be a political hack (Jeff Foxworthy joke - heyooo).
    That would mean that I am part of the political party apparatus, please prove that to be the case? I defend Bush only because you divert from the Obama record and the poor choice you made. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012 and not a comparison to Bush.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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    That would mean that I am part of the political party apparatus, please prove that to be the case? I defend Bush only because you divert from the Obama record and the poor choice you made. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012 and not a comparison to Bush.
    Can you not just admit it? Take that number off of your little list, and I won't bring it up again. That, or admit it makes Bush a bad leader as well. You can't have it both ways.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    It's compare and contrast. I never actually said Bush was a bad president for posting the same numbers, I am just pointing out that he did. If one president posts a "bad GDP growth" and it makes him a poor leader, then shouldn't that hold true for any other president?
    Think the public is going to compare the Obama performance to Bush in Nov. 2012? Did you ever see Bush try to divide the country by attemting to demonize one class of people over another? Did you ever see Bush demonizing individual wealth creation? Do you think the role of a leader is to divide?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Can you not just admit it? Take that number off of your little list, and I won't bring it up again. That, or admit it makes Bush a bad leader as well. You can't have it both ways.
    Yes, I can admit that I am not part of the political party apparatus and have no affiliation with the Republican Party at all. I am a conservative and proud of it. I grew up a Democrat but the party left me when it had no use for conservatives. My bet is I have voted for more Democrats than you have voted Republicans. The Republican Party is closer to my ideology than the Obama/Reid/Pelosi Democratic Party. What number do you want me to take off my list? What numbers have I posted that are wrong?

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, I can admit that I am not part of the political party apparatus and have no affiliation with the Republican Party at all. I am a conservative and proud of it. I grew up a Democrat but the party left me when it had no use for conservatives. My bet is I have voted for more Democrats than you have voted Republicans. The Republican Party is closer to my ideology than the Obama/Reid/Pelosi Democratic Party. What number do you want me to take off my list? What numbers have I posted that are wrong?
    Your insinuation that .4% and 1.3% somehow implicate Obama as a bad leader. That, or admit that those same numbers are dark spots on Bush's record as well.

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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    What number do you want me to take off my list? What numbers have I posted that are wrong?
    I see that case of beer is coming along . I posted that are wrong hehe.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Republicans block Obama jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Your insinuation that .4% and 1.3% somehow implicate Obama as a bad leader. That, or admit that those same numbers are dark spots on Bush's record as well.
    The GDP numbers are what they are and alone don't implicate Obama as a bad leader but do show a trend that isn't very positive and shows that his economic policy is a failure. There is more than enough information to prove that he is a poor leader.

    Leaders don't divide people and that is all Obama does. Leaders cannot delegate responsibility and that is all Obama does, you can delegate authority but not responsibility. Leaders don't blame others for their own failures. Leaders take office and the challenges of that office instead of claiming the previous leader drove the bus into a ditch when he was part of the group driving that bus.

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