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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Jesus christ some of you are retarded.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the proof of iranian government involvement in this is as solid as the presence of WMDs in iraq

    mossad false flag? probably too clumsy
    saudi false flag. more likely. at least as likely as this actually being an iranian enterprise
    There's little proof the government of Iran had any involvement....so it obviously must be the evil JEWS or the Saudi's even though there is significantly less (zero) proof suggesting that to be the case then there is suggesting it's Iran.

    God I love the logic of people like this.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Not if Russia and/or China decided to intervene. They're quite the oil buddies with Iran.
    They wouldn't intervene "militarily," but they would raise a major stink about it. There would be tremendous political fallout from striking Iran. It simply isn't worth it for one (that we know of) assassination attempt of a "foreign" diplomat on US soil.

    Personally, I would prefer that the highly-educated and cosmopolitan people of Iran get rid of the Iranian government themselves. They don't trust the government and certainly don't "like" it at all. They're a bit disgusted with the Khomeinis "telling them who they voted for." I'd prefer for them to take care of their own business.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I could imagine sensible people having a conversation like this:

    Us -- "Hey! What the hell's going on?? We have what we think is reliable information that a member of your government coinspired with an American citizen to assassinate the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the U.S. We've got the American citizen in custody; the other guy has returned to your country. How about a little help here to investigate what's going on? Sounds like you might have a loose cannon.

    Them -- You've got to be kidding me. That's just impossible. The Iranian government is absolutely not involved in any plot to assassinate anyone. We'll put out an APB on this guy; and when we have him, we'll let you know so you can come here to interrogate him. If he's gone rogue, we want to know about it as much as you do."

    But, of course, that ain't happenin'. Ha!
    Yup. That's pretty much SOP in political circles. Even Pakistan knows how to play that game.

    Of course, the obvious follow on phone call goes something like this, "We found him. Yes. Sorry, but he's dead. Yes, I know you wanted to interrogate him, but that's real difficult when he's dead. Well, apparently he fell in the shower. No. Let's see...he broke both legs during the fall and then fractured his skull multiple times. Finally, he drowned in two inches of bath water. Clearly it was a tragic accident. What? Yes, that's our official stance, it was an accidental death..."

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Personally, I am somewhat skeptical of this as it is too sloppy for Iran. This isn't Iran's style. From the article:

    Mr Holder described the plot as an "international murder for hire scheme" involving a plan to pay an assassin from a Mexican drug cartel $US1.5 million to carry out the killing.

    If Iran wanted to assassinate someone, why would they use a Mexican drug cartel?

    Why was the entire thing planned on US soil? That's quite risky. I mean, if you want to assassinate a diplomat, it'd be pretty easy to do, but everyone knows that US security, police, and intelligence are on the look out for even a mention of terrorism, thus your chances decrease greatly.

    Finally, if Iran had succeeded, what would they have gotten out of it? How would it have furthered their interests? The plot would have been investigated and would have been linked back to Iran, thus they could have had Saudi Arabia and Israel wanting to attack them and everyone knows that if Israel attacks Iran, America is right there with them. Thus you'd have the world's superpower (US), a regional superpower (Israel), and a major regional power (Saudi Arabia) all bombing the crap out of your country. While the Iranian government may act crazy, they aren't stupid. Thus, I have to wonder why Iran would even do this. (Please note that I am not saying its impossible, but it looks a bit strange is all.)
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Personally, I am somewhat skeptical of this as it is too sloppy for Iran. This isn't Iran's style. From the article:

    Mr Holder described the plot as an "international murder for hire scheme" involving a plan to pay an assassin from a Mexican drug cartel $US1.5 million to carry out the killing.

    If Iran wanted to assassinate someone, why would they use a Mexican drug cartel?

    Why was the entire thing planned on US soil? That's quite risky. I mean, if you want to assassinate a diplomat, it'd be pretty easy to do, but everyone knows that US security, police, and intelligence are on the look out for even a mention of terrorism, thus your chances decrease greatly.

    Finally, if Iran had succeeded, what would they have gotten out of it? How would it have furthered their interests? The plot would have been investigated and would have been linked back to Iran, thus they could have had Saudi Arabia and Israel wanting to attack them and everyone knows that if Israel attacks Iran, America is right there with them. Thus you'd have the world's superpower (US), a regional superpower (Israel), and a major regional power (Saudi Arabia) all bombing the crap out of your country. While the Iranian government may act crazy, they aren't stupid. Thus, I have to wonder why Iran would even do this. (Please note that I am not saying its impossible, but it looks a bit strange is all.)
    on the other hand, what countries are motivated to gin up an excuse for the USA to take out iran's nuclear facilities
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    The fast and furious plot to occupy Iran - Opinion - Al Jazeera English

    I would issue some skepticism too. Also since when was the ambassador of saudi arabia and the israeli embassy american?

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    on the other hand, what countries are motivated to gin up an excuse for the USA to take out iran's nuclear facilities
    Well, I think that may be going a bit too far as the US doesn't have the manpower to invade Iran and Israel is busy dealing with the current Arab Spring and protests in their own nation, as well as trying to kill the Palestinian UN bid. So the usual suspects have their hands full at the moment.
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Absolutely, positively, no doubt about it...impossible!

    Our airforce is ENORMOUS compared to Iran's. And the vast majority of it is where Iran cannot reach it. On top of that, they would not surprise us so easily.
    Yeah, that's what the Egyptians thought, too. Look how that turned out for them.

    Don't think they couldn't surprise us. We are talking about the same country that missed 130 thousand Soviet troops invading Afghanistan.

    And, never under-estimate your enemy.

    Look, our air assets alone could bring Iran's entire military to it's knees within a few weeks.

    But don't think we'll do it. It's not weakness by any stretch. Major operations like that are costly. We have more important concerns at home.
    We're not going to do it, because Obama doesn't have the nads.
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    We're not going to do it, because Obama doesn't have the nads.
    Since when is sending other people to war having nads?

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