Page 6 of 40 FirstFirst ... 4567816 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 400

Thread: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

  1. #51
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,584

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's not "weak" to show restraint.
    You're thinking like an American Liberal, not like an Iranian firebrand government honcho, which makes your perception of, "weak", irrelevant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  2. #52
    Sage

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last Seen
    11-17-17 @ 12:48 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19,610

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're thinking like an American Liberal, not like an Iranian firebrand government honcho, which makes your perception of, "weak", irrelevant.
    Actually, I'm thinking like someone who's interested in a conservative foreign policy and you are clearly unaware of many conservatives who feel the same way if you think that's a "liberal" position. I agree that the Iranians would perceive it as weak. I, however, am not an Iranian. And no, my perception is not irrelevant because I don't believe in starting wars just because the Iranians will think I'm weak if we don't. That's probably one of the dumbest reasons to start a war ever.

  3. #53
    Sage
    EagleAye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Last Seen
    03-28-13 @ 09:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    5,697

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they devised a plan, like the one the IDF used in the 6-Day War, they could hit our air assets, while they're still on the ground and do a lot to even the playing field.

    Unlikely? Possibly. Impossible? Nothing is impossible.
    Absolutely, positively, no doubt about it...impossible!

    Our airforce is ENORMOUS compared to Iran's. And the vast majority of it is where Iran cannot reach it. On top of that, they would not surprise us so easily.

    Look, our air assets alone could bring Iran's entire military to it's knees within a few weeks. But don't think we'll do it. It's not weakness by any stretch. Major operations like that are costly. We have more important concerns at home.

  4. #54
    Guru
    Ben K.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 02:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,717

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    So, Obama has presided over a number of legally questionable assassinations and people feel the Iranians see him as weak at this point in time?

    Oh partisanship, never change.

  5. #55
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    12,460
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Absolutely, positively, no doubt about it...impossible!

    Our airforce is ENORMOUS compared to Iran's. And the vast majority of it is where Iran cannot reach it. On top of that, they would not surprise us so easily.

    Look, our air assets alone could bring Iran's entire military to it's knees within a few weeks. But don't think we'll do it. It's not weakness by any stretch. Major operations like that are costly. We have more important concerns at home.
    I think we should drop fake bombs full of cheezy poofs and signs that say "coulda blowed up your ****! Ha hah!"

    This would be constructive.

    It would demonstrate our ability to penetrate their defenses, without providing them with anything for their propaganda machinery.

    And what would Iran do about it?

    Be mad, really really mad.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

  6. #56
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    So, Obama has presided over a number of legally questionable assassinations and people feel the Iranians see him as weak at this point in time?

    Oh partisanship, never change.

    I think it's a bit over simplistic to say continuing and expanding drone missile strikes automatically make a President look strong or, at least, NOT weak. It takes a bit more than that....
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  7. #57
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Instead of denying-denying-denying, Iran should step up and say they are attempting to locate Gohlam Shakuri, the supposed Iranian official who is party to this terrorist plot. Of course they will deny. They know it is going to be very difficult to tie the government to this plot...but, nonetheless, the Iranian government should move to show the United States that they will investigate the matter on their own.

    I could imagine sensible people having a conversation like this:

    Us -- "Hey! What the hell's going on?? We have what we think is reliable information that a member of your government coinspired with an American citizen to assassinate the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the U.S. We've got the American citizen in custody; the other guy has returned to your country. How about a little help here to investigate what's going on? Sounds like you might have a loose cannon.

    Them -- You've got to be kidding me. That's just impossible. The Iranian government is absolutely not involved in any plot to assassinate anyone. We'll put out an APB on this guy; and when we have him, we'll let you know so you can come here to interrogate him. If he's gone rogue, we want to know about it as much as you do."

    But, of course, that ain't happenin'. Ha!
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  8. #58
    Guru
    Ben K.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 02:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,717

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I think it's a bit over simplistic to say continuing and expanding drone missile strikes automatically make a President look strong or, at least, NOT weak. It takes a bit more than that....
    And regime change in Libya...

  9. #59
    Sage
    Erod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    North Texas
    Last Seen
    12-16-17 @ 11:47 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,073

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Absolutely, positively, no doubt about it...impossible!

    Our airforce is ENORMOUS compared to Iran's. And the vast majority of it is where Iran cannot reach it. On top of that, they would not surprise us so easily.

    Look, our air assets alone could bring Iran's entire military to it's knees within a few weeks. But don't think we'll do it. It's not weakness by any stretch. Major operations like that are costly. We have more important concerns at home.
    Not if Russia and/or China decided to intervene. They're quite the oil buddies with Iran.

  10. #60
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    And regime change in Libya...
    Well according to the current White House administration, we had little to nothing to do with Libya. It was the U.N., the UK and France.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


Page 6 of 40 FirstFirst ... 4567816 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •