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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I don't recall that either.
    Good, then we are in agreement, but I'm not quite sure why you replied to my original post.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

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    You should let Fitzgerald know that he missed getting the mastermind then....
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    Good, then we are in agreement, but I'm not quite sure why you replied to my original post.
    I gather.

    The obstruction of justice prevented Fitzgerald from going farther and caused him to miss "getting the mastermind" as you put it.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You should let Fitzgerald know that he missed getting the mastermind then........

    Any more history that you'd like to invent ???
    yep, believe that cheney had no involvement
    that his chief aid, libby, executed this treason of his own volition


    believe that the private energy task force chaired by cheney soon after taking office did not examine maps of iraqi oil fields which maps listed 'foreign suitors for iraqi oilfield contracts'
    which meeting was conducted prior to 9/11


    some folks love the kool aid and will quaff upon request
    the same gullible lemmings who will believe that a bankrupt used car dealer was an agent for iran in this 'plot'
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I gather.

    The obstruction of justice prevented Fitzgerald from going farther and caused him to miss "getting the mastermind" as you put it.
    You have a very active imagination, but a poor grasp of historical facts.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You have a very active imagination, but a poor grasp of historical facts.
    Actually, he is paraphrasing Fizgerald:

    “The results are actually sad,” Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said. “It’s sad that we had a situation where a high-level official person who worked in the office of the vice president obstructed justice and lied under oath. We wish that it had not happened, but it did.”

    Jury convicts Libby on four charges - politics - msnbc.com

    But when his motives have been attacked during court proceedings, Fitzgerald has occasionally shown flashes of anger -- and has hinted that he and his investigative team suspected more malfeasance at higher levels of government than they were able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

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    Libby's lies, Fitzgerald wrote, "made impossible an accurate evaluation of the role that Mr. Libby and those with whom he worked played in the disclosure of information regarding Ms. Wilson's CIA employment and about the motivations for their actions."

    Dan Froomkin - Fitzgerald Again Points to Cheney

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, he is paraphrasing Fizgerald:

    “The results are actually sad,” Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said. “It’s sad that we had a situation where a high-level official person who worked in the office of the vice president obstructed justice and lied under oath. We wish that it had not happened, but it did.”

    Jury convicts Libby on four charges - politics - msnbc.com

    But when his motives have been attacked during court proceedings, Fitzgerald has occasionally shown flashes of anger -- and has hinted that he and his investigative team suspected more malfeasance at higher levels of government than they were able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

    (snip)

    Libby's lies, Fitzgerald wrote, "made impossible an accurate evaluation of the role that Mr. Libby and those with whom he worked played in the disclosure of information regarding Ms. Wilson's CIA employment and about the motivations for their actions."

    Dan Froomkin - Fitzgerald Again Points to Cheney
    And none of this proves anything other than Fitz found no evidence of criminal activity by Cheney.

    Don't you find it just a little odd that Armitage admitted to outing Plame, yet faced no legal liability?? Guess he wasn't the one Fitz wanted to find was he??

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And none of this proves anything other than Fitz found no evidence of criminal activity by Cheney.

    Don't you find it just a little odd that Armitage admitted to outing Plame, yet faced no legal liability?? Guess he wasn't the one Fitz wanted to find was he??
    Nor does anyone suggest we have more. Only that Fitz couldn't find out one way or the other because of Libby.

    What Armitage did has nothing to do with it. Look at it this way, if I rob a store before you do, does that mean you didn't? it is possible that Cheney and his people broke the law, or attmpted to even if Armitage slipped up before them.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nor does anyone suggest we have more. Only that Fitz couldn't find out one way or the other because of Libby.

    What Armitage did has nothing to do with it. Look at it this way, if I rob a store before you do, does that mean you didn't? it is possible that Cheney and his people broke the law, or attmpted to even if Armitage slipped up before them.
    Fitz didn't find out because there was nothing to find out.

    That has to be a great candidate for the dumbest analogy in history. You and your ilk were having wet dreams that Cheney would be caught up in this non-issue and are simply disappointed that there was nothing to be found involving him.

    And at the same time you excuse the Obama crowd for Fast and Furious which resulted in a dead American. Disgusting.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Fitz didn't find out because there was nothing to find out.

    That has to be a great candidate for the dumbest analogy in history. You and your ilk were having wet dreams that Cheney would be caught up in this non-issue and are simply disappointed that there was nothing to be found involving him.

    And at the same time you excuse the Obama crowd for Fast and Furious which resulted in a dead American. Disgusting.
    Maybe there was nothing, but we will never know as Libby hindered the investigation and was convicted for it.

    As for the analogy, try to at least see the point: It is possible that Cheney and his people broke the law, or attmpted to even if Armitage slipped up before them.

    And I don't excuse the Obama crowd. I ask for the same thing I ask for Cheney: Evidence.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Maybe there was nothing, but we will never know as Libby hindered the investigation and was convicted for it.

    As for the analogy, try to at least see the point: It is possible that Cheney and his people broke the law, or attmpted to even if Armitage slipped up before them.

    And I don't excuse the Obama crowd. I ask for the same thing I ask for Cheney: Evidence.
    Yes, we do know. The inconsequential lies they caught Libby at had nothing to do with Cheney.

    There is no point to your lame analogy. It's also possible that Wilson outed his own wife to get back at Cheney ............right??? After all, according to you anything is possible, even if it is nonsensical.

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