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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    I am simply flabbergasted by your response. You are the one who foolishly interjected yourself into this conversation and claimed that I get my information from the Daily Kos, which couldn't be further than the truth.

    When I kindly respond to your request by providing valid news sources, an alternative media source, and a Congressional hearing testimony, you respond by plugging up your ears and shouting "la, la, la, I can't hear you". Next time don't make a request and then shrug it off when someone provides you the info that you asked for.

    Perhaps we can try this some other time, but for now I don't see any reason to continue this conversation.
    Perhaps you might believe what you read in the newspapers but you should scrutinize your links a little more closely.

    For example, in your first link, it says, "The exports were legal at the time and approved under a program administered by the Commerce Department". They were intended to be used to combat diseases.

    Twenty years later anti Americans tried to use this in order to demonize the USA, which is not hard to do among the committed Leftists, but in fact these programs were not uncommon at the time, and the scientific world shares such information today.. They were designed to fight diseases and if some madman later uses them against his own people of course everyone involved would be horrified.

    If you believe the United States is so evil that they would deliberately send germs to a madman in order to commit genocide against innocent people, then perhaps its time you just left. I would not live in a country which deliberately contributed to genocide.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    I said "Jihadists" not Saddam Hussein's dictatorship.

    And of course the Iraqi government had contacts with AQ, though it is not certain what the consequences of these meetings might have been.

    But are you trying to make the claim that Saddam Hussein was a man of high morals and would never have sunk to the level of supporting or consorting with terrorists? What is your point?

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And of course the Iraqi government had contacts with AQ, though it is not certain what the consequences of these meetings might have been.
    Is this another way of saying that despite “purposely aggressive approach” in conducting "exhaustive and repetitive searches for such links" the Intelligence Community "remained firm in its assessment that no operational or collaborative relationship existed"?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Is this another way of saying that despite “purposely aggressive approach” in conducting "exhaustive and repetitive searches for such links" the Intelligence Community "remained firm in its assessment that no operational or collaborative relationship existed"?
    Why would I want to say it another way? Didn't you understand the first time?

    Or are you actually denying there was ever any connection between AlQ and Iraq?

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why would I want to say it another way? Didn't you understand the first time?
    I was just checking if your version squares with that of the US Intelligence Community.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or are you actually denying there was ever any connection between AlQ and Iraq?
    I am quite willing to accept the USIC's conclusions about the matter, which I quoted from above.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I was just checking if your version squares with that of the US Intelligence Community.
    I am quite willing to accept the USIC's conclusions about the matter, which I quoted from above.
    Is this the same Intelligence Community that many are claiming was wrong about WMD?

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Is this the same Intelligence Community that many are claiming was wrong about WMD?
    How many US Intelligence Communities are there?

    Do you think they were wrong about the WMD?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps you might believe what you read in the newspapers but you should scrutinize your links a little more closely.

    For example, in your first link, it says, "The exports were legal at the time and approved under a program administered by the Commerce Department". They were intended to be used to combat diseases.
    Thanks for proving my point and by the way, I never even debate if we did it illegaly. From the article, Iraq had ordered the samples, claiming it needed them for legitimate medical research....The CDC and a biological sample company, the American Type Culture Collection, sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and the germs that cause gas gangrene, the records show.


    So, Saddam says he needs some chemicals for medical research and the US ships him over anthrax, botulinum toxin, and gangrene and you eat it up like candy.

    Twenty years later anti Americans tried to use this in order to demonize the USA, which is not hard to do among the committed Leftists, but in fact these programs were not uncommon at the time, and the scientific world shares such information today.. They were designed to fight diseases and if some madman later uses them against his own people of course everyone involved would be horrified.

    If you believe the United States is so evil that they would deliberately send germs to a madman in order to commit genocide against innocent people, then perhaps its time you just left. I would not live in a country which deliberately contributed to genocide.
    This is nonsense and you are getting out of control. Its really not worth responding to.

    So, bye!

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Getting back to the OP.

    The more I think about this, the less it adds up. Iran teams up with a used car salesman and Mexican drugs lords to bomb an American building and we are still not at war with them. Iran may be crazy, but are they really going to risk it all over a derelict and some drug peddlers?

    Plus, when did it become American policy to just slap tougher sanctions on a country that openly declares war on us?

    I am trying to figure why Obama is proclaiming this nonsense? Did he get false info or is he pulling a Nixon or something else? All I know is that this still isn't adding up.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    I am simply flabbergasted by your response. You are the one who foolishly interjected yourself into this conversation and claimed that I get my information from the Daily Kos, which couldn't be further than the truth.

    When I kindly respond to your request by providing valid news sources, an alternative media source, and a Congressional hearing testimony, you respond by plugging up your ears and shouting "la, la, la, I can't hear you". Next time don't make a request and then shrug it off when someone provides you the info that you asked for.

    Perhaps we can try this some other time, but for now I don't see any reason to continue this conversation.
    That's probably wise on your part if Counterpunch and USA Today are the best you can come up with.

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