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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    What's your reasoning against it? "They're this clumsy because they're Iran?"
    I haven't made any conclusions, one way, or the other.

    So, the question still stands.
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I dont agree with Fox News generally

    But the alleged Iranian plot and this particular Fox News story has me agreeing

    [video=youtube;5iAZLV3I4Edeo]
    Judge Napolitano is a Libertarian populist Crackpot.
    I was skeptical when I first heard this BUT....

    Iran would gladly assassinate Saudis - NYPOST.com
    Amir Taheri
    Last Updated: 3:39 AM, October 13, 2011

    No one knows where the accusations leveled against Iran by US Attorney General Eric Holder might lead. If true, the claim that Iran planned to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington would amount to an act of war against the United States. And that would require a response beyond the jumble of “new sanctions” proposed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. That the Islamic Republic plots terrorist operations abroad is neither new nor surprising. In 1980, the mullahs organized the murder in Bethesda, Md., of Ali Akbar Tabatabai, an Iranian diplomat who’d turned against the regime. The assassin, Dawoud Salahuddin, a US convert to Islam, claimed that the murder was “an act of war” and fled to Iran where he later emerged as an adviser to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    The United States was not the only place where the mullahs carried out “acts of war.” Between 1980 and 1995, the Islamic Republic planned and carried out 112 political assassinations in 22 countries across the globe.

    France alone saw the murders of 17 Iranian exiles. In 1994, a French court issued arrest warrants against nine senior Iranian officials. In 1997, a German court issued warrants for the arrest of a number of Iranian officials charged with participation in the murder of four exiled Iranian politicians in Berlin five years earlier. Among those named were Iran’s “Supreme Guide” Ali Khamenei
    and former President Ali-Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. At trial, former President Abolhassan Banisadr testified that a four-man committee, headed by Khamenei, was orchestrating the murder of dissidents abroad.

    The Islamic Republic has always regarded Saudi Arabia as an enemy, a sentiment amply reciprocated. The two neighbors market rival brands of militant Islam and have been engaged in proxy wars in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq, among other places. In Pakistan, Iran finances and arms the militant Shi’ite Jaafari Movement (Tehrik Jaafari), while the Saudis back the equally militant Sunni Lashkar Tayyibah (Army of the Pure). The two groups are responsible for more than 40,000 deaths in sectarian fighting in Pakistan over the past 20 years. In Afghanistan, Iran backs the Hazara Shi’ites while the Saudis, having backed the Taliban until 9/11, support militant Sunni groups. In Iraq, the Islamic Republic backs Shi’ite armed groups such as the Mahdi Army; meanwhile, until 2008, thousands of Saudis fought on the side of Sunni militants.
    The two are also fighting over Syria.".."
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    Iran no doubt also pissed by:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...wikileaks.html

    So this is hardly as far-fetched as it would seem.
    There is the widely Ignored/Unknown Past performance, an ongoing battle, and Proximate Provocation.
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Judge Napolitano is a Libertarian populist Crackpot.
    I was skeptical when I first heard this BUT....

    Iran would gladly assassinate Saudis - NYPOST.com
    Amir Taheri
    Last Updated: 3:39 AM, October 13, 2011


    Iran no doubt also pissed by:
    That Iran has assassinated people is not in doubt by myself or most people.

    That the Iranian government used an incompetent individual to arrange some assassinations by using a mexican drug cartel to kill a Saudi Ambassador in the US and to bomb other places is.

    The guy is incompetent, Iran knows better to wire over $100 000, and has far easier targets outside of the US that would cause far fewer direct repercussions for Iran

    This entire event is amatuer(sp) hour and would present Iran with far more negatives then benifits.
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm all about differing opinions, but as far as Ann Coulter goes I'd rather attempt to induce an enema on Helen Thomas then read a boom written by that psychotic, brainless right wing zombie.
    I think I take that as a "no" to your question, Adpst. But.....since so many on the left on this forum accuse the right of pulling things out of what is said that isn't really there, I'll let him tell you himself.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    That Iran has assassinated people is not in doubt by myself or most people.

    That the Iranian government used an incompetent individual to arrange some assassinations by using a mexican drug cartel to kill a Saudi Ambassador in the US and to bomb other places is.
    Do you suppose he lied on his resume?

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Do you suppose he lied on his resume?
    You mean the following stellar resume that would inspire confidence in any potential black ops employer

    Shortly after his arrival in the United States, friends started to call Arbabsiar “Jack” because of his taste for Jack Daniel’s whiskey, Hosseini said. And as recently as last year, Arbabsiar was arrested for felony possession of a narcotic.

    In 1991, Arbabsiar married Marta Guerrero, and they have a son who is a college sophomore studying biology.

    Arbabsiar opened his first business, B&M Autosales, in Corpus Christi in 1988, according to public records. He opened another car lot in 1992 and then closed it when he incorporated Johnny’s Loan Co. in 1996. He started another financial venture called Tat Finance Co., and in April 2000, he tried the restaurant business when he founded Gyros and Kabob. The restaurant closed in 2003.

    He and and his wife moved several years ago to Austin, where Arbabsiar opened a wholesale car sales business.

    In January 2010, a home owned by Arbabsiar in Corpus Christi went into foreclosure, and it was auctioned off later that year. He and his wife separated
    Mansour Arbabsiar recalled as upbeat about finances during summer encounter - The Washington Post


    Just the person I would contract out to put a $1.5 million dollar contract out on some people and buildings, especially when I would have done similar operations in the past. His resume inspires confidence in his organization skills and ability to follow things through
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You mean the following stellar resume that would inspire confidence in any potential black ops employer

    Mansour Arbabsiar recalled as upbeat about finances during summer encounter - The Washington Post

    Just the person I would contract out to put a $1.5 million dollar contract out on some people and buildings, especially when I would have done similar operations in the past. His resume inspires confidence in his organization skills and ability to follow things through
    *snort*...*snicker*...

    Oh this is just rich. The uber dangerous, almighty Quds Force was getting fleeced by......a used car salesman!!!

    Oh man, it's true, you just can't make this stuff up!

    Hey Ayatollah Ali Khamenei - wanna buy a bridge?

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    *snort*...*snicker*...

    Oh this is just rich. The uber dangerous, almighty Quds Force was getting fleeced by......a used car salesman!!!

    Oh man, it's true, you just can't make this stuff up!

    Hey Ayatollah Ali Khamenei - wanna buy a bridge?
    Or perhaps the Quds force was not working with this individual, and either the US government is hyping the event or itself fooled by a used car salesman

    Personally i expect the US government is hyping the event and the guy is a nutball with no ties to the Iranian government
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant" for the modern age

    Arbabsiar (used car salesman): And I went up there, I said, "Gholam, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
    wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
    guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill,Kill,
    KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL,KILL," and
    he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
    yelling, "KILL, KILL."

    Gholam Shakuri (Quds Operative): [pins a medal on Arbabsiar] "You're our boy."

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You mean the following stellar resume that would inspire confidence in any potential black ops employer

    Mansour Arbabsiar recalled as upbeat about finances during summer encounter - The Washington Post


    Just the person I would contract out to put a $1.5 million dollar contract out on some people and buildings, especially when I would have done similar operations in the past. His resume inspires confidence in his organization skills and ability to follow things through
    no doubt this is the plot master mind
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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