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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    ok, i'll play (gladly)

    show us the evidence that iran is behind this plot
    As already stated (but you know that, you're just playing dumb), its in the OP

    The US says it has broken up a major terrorist plot in which agents linked to Iran sought to assassinate Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the US and bomb the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Washington.

    US authorities say the scheme called for the assassination of the Saudi envoy in a bomb attack which could have killed many other people and would have been just "the opening act" to a "well-funded and chilling plot" directed by factions of the Iranian government.
    Now, you don't think its good evidence because U.S. officials are making the accusation and nothing more. And you know what, I agree. Its not strong evidence, its heresay based on the words of a US official.

    HOWEVER

    Its still a **** ton more than the big fat ZERO you've been able to provide suggesting in any way, shape, or form that this was MOSSAD or the Saudi's.

    All I'm saying is before you get on your high horse and start ranting at people to provide you sources and proof and evidence you should make sure your own ass didn't start trying to make accusations and suggestions and statements while providing even less sources than the ones you're ranting at have.

    You want to make baseless accusations based on your "opinion", which you obviously value immensely, that's fine...but don't get on other people for making slightly less baseless ones as well.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    As already stated (but you know that, you're just playing dumb), its in the OP



    Now, you don't think its good evidence because U.S. officials are making the accusation and nothing more. And you know what, I agree. Its not strong evidence, its heresay based on the words of a US official.

    HOWEVER

    Its still a **** ton more than the big fat ZERO you've been able to provide suggesting in any way, shape, or form that this was MOSSAD or the Saudi's.

    All I'm saying is before you get on your high horse and start ranting at people to provide you sources and proof and evidence you should make sure your own ass didn't start trying to make accusations and suggestions and statements while providing even less sources than the ones you're ranting at have.

    You want to make baseless accusations based on your "opinion", which you obviously value immensely, that's fine...but don't get on other people for making slightly less baseless ones as well.
    so, you have nothing
    well nothing more than the UN had when Powell insisted that we had reliable evidence of WMDs in iraq
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if this was not iran behind the plot, what reason do we have to believe that the state(s) behind the false flag will not make another attempt to provoke our retaliation against iran
    Not that I believe it wasn't Iran, but I'll play along for the moment...

    The thing I wonder about this plot is: what if we didn't find out about it? What if it worked to perfection? Well, then we wouldn't have any evidence. We'd have no accused to confess and no phone calls from any Quds member. We'd have almost nothing and almost no one to pin it on.

    So if you wanted to make sure evidence was left behind, you would have to either: 1) make sure the plot fails, or 2) leave a trail of breadcrumbs. Either one leaves a trail, and leaving a "false" trail is a trail all by itself. I'm not saying it's perfect or flawless, but the idea of "framing" a person or even a country is hardly new. I don't think anyone in the government is happy being another country's lackey. You can be sure we don't want to play that game.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Those folks that certain, or at least convinced that Iran had nothing to with it: what are you basing your opinion on?

    So far I've heard, "Iran isn't that clumsy", parroted fairly regular. On what evidence is that claim being based?
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Those folks that certain, or at least convinced that Iran had nothing to with it: what are you basing your opinion on?

    So far I've heard, "Iran isn't that clumsy", parroted fairly regular. On what evidence is that claim being based?
    What's your reasoning against it? "They're this clumsy because they're Iran?"

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, you have nothing
    well nothing more than the UN had when Powell insisted that we had reliable evidence of WMDs in iraq
    No, I have evidence...weak evidence but evidence.

    You must be referring to yourself, the person who ACTUALLY has nothing.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    What's your reasoning against it? "They're this clumsy because they're Iran?"
    How about Iran supplying Iraq insurgents with artillery shells - to make IEDs - made in Iran, complete with Iranian manufacturing info printed on them. *whoopsie*

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It is no less plausable then believing Iran is so incompetent as to seek the aid of Mexican drug cartels to kill people and wire $100 000 in money transfers when the US government monitors any transfer over $10 000

    That someone tried to contact the mexican drug cartel to kill and bomb some people is likely, that it was arranged by the Iranian government is not. Iran does have the network and training to do this in house or through one of its associates like Hezbollah, neither of which would trust using mexican drug cartels to do the work
    Either way Obama gets the heat. He will be perceived as too soft on the Iranians if the news is true. If it's a government conspiracy it will end his presidency immediately if not sooner.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Word of this plot came from the Obama Administration?

    It's difficult to believe the Administration at the best of times. When will solid evidence of this be released?
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    This really doesn't seem like Iran's government, at least at the top levels planned this.

    Why would the Zetas risk a full blown American crackdown for a mere 1.5 million? Furthermore, if the assassin was rouge, it would be in the Cartel's interest to kill that guy before he actually pulled it off. The LAST thing the Cartels want is Obama and Calderon coming down on them.

    Seems like someone moderately up, or just a rich civilian in Iran has a grudge to settle.
    Because the Zetas obviously fear Obama and Calderon....
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