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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Just a prop to go to war with Iran without doing a 9/11 on us. I thought it was going to happen when Romney got into office but I guess not. When we take over Iran, will soon find ourselves with an engagement with Pakistan. When that happens, they'll initiate a draft.



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    Shame its non nav but very competetively priced.. Just shows how hard it is to shift metal at the moment! glws..

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    This really doesn't seem like Iran's government, at least at the top levels planned this.

    Why would the Zetas risk a full blown American crackdown for a mere 1.5 million? Furthermore, if the assassin was rouge, it would be in the Cartel's interest to kill that guy before he actually pulled it off. The LAST thing the Cartels want is Obama and Calderon coming down on them.

    Seems like someone moderately up, or just a rich civilian in Iran has a grudge to settle.
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    I notice that at the beginning of this thread a lot of folks agreed with Ahmadinejad that this plot was too much like a bad movie plot to be plausible. Thus, the US must be lying about it. Now people are agreeing that it is plausible, but only to say the US must have set it up as an excuse to attack Iran.

    I find that curious.

    Another thing to consider is that terrorism doesn't follow the lines of logical, rational statecraft. Terrorism in born out of fanaticism. So when a terrorist maneuver seems illogical or poorly thought out from a geo-political standpoint that's only because...it's terrorism.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Another thing to consider is that terrorism doesn't follow the lines of logical, rational statecraft. Terrorism in born out of fanaticism. So when a terrorist maneuver seems illogical or poorly thought out from a geo-political standpoint that's only because...it's terrorism.
    But the other thing about terrorism that is often forgotten in lue of more colourful rhetoric such as "they hate us for our freedoms" or they're "Evil" is that terrorism is ultimately a tool used by said fanatics to achieve a political goal, what the maneuver is, however illogical and poorly thought out is not nearly as important as its impact.

    If you actually look at it on paper, with all the hurdles that had to jumped to make 9/11 happen, it would seem ludicrous on paper.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I dont agree with Fox News generally

    But the alleged Iranian plot and this particular Fox News story has me agreeing

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But the other thing about terrorism that is often forgotten in lue of more colourful rhetoric such as "they hate us for our freedoms" or they're "Evil" is that terrorism is ultimately a tool used by said fanatics to achieve a political goal, what the maneuver is, however illogical and poorly thought out is not nearly as important as its impact.

    If you actually look at it on paper, with all the hurdles that had to jumped to make 9/11 happen, it would seem ludicrous on paper.
    Exactly. Terrorists lack the wisdom of a statesman. They're going for impact, rather than the careful, methodical maneuvers borne of experience. What they lack for wisdom they make up for with tenacity and cunning.

    So they can draw up an improbable plan, and by sheer force of will make it work, but cannot stop and think about the difference between "could" perform an act and "should" perform an act.

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    I'm currently cognizant of the lies that supported the Libyan debacle and know that as wars wind down, so do jobs and the Military/Industrial profits, so it's full time work to gin up wars and excuses for wars and cold wars and covert wars and it's all good business, very profitable. Then there's all that OIL. Is there even a remote chance that these types of motivation may be behind the huge Mass Media coverage this event instantly drew as opposed to, for example, to the Occupy Wall Street protests and the paucity of coverage. This is the Media working the minds to influence an sublimal agenda. Could the agenda be war, I mean big business, I mean big money making big money and sharing with the politicians and the military. Bidness as usual, perhaps? Won't Darth Cheney be pleased?

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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    Just a prop to go to war with Iran without doing a 9/11 on us. I thought it was going to happen when Romney got into office but I guess not. When we take over Iran, will soon find ourselves with an engagement with Pakistan. When that happens, they'll initiate a draft.
    I agreed until "they'll initiate a draft".

    There's no way we'd be fighting constant wars if people were drafted to fight them.
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    Re: Iran accused over Washington terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's not "weak" to show restraint.
    In fact, it is a sign of weaknest to overreact.

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